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[Orbit]

A platform well know English so I think this character a little further from Nis know where the brightest, but wakes up when something napametniji budes cleverly done and not to hate someone for some reason that you, the izdigo, that was you and no ITI except you.

[Orbit]

Cesar I'm in some way mention the conversion serbijan most vanted, I gave dvozvucne bonding pattern of discrimination, but not anybody down, but I made him under the name Gold Rover, a scheme comes from my good friend Stanimir. And not from some who themselves proclaim the great masters of this forum and know who is who log on the forum who knows the names of Kolko writes Cesar because I was there wrote Gold Rover. And here you cesar in SMD. ha ha ha haha




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Let me see.... you have there Jackdetect's handmade, you have there broken GP3500 .....and you heve there "Caesar" copy ....hmmm!?!?

[Orbit]

cesar smd

[peroon]

Orbit...nemoj da vise koristis taj program za prevodjenje jer ne prevodi uopste kako treba. Ono sto "izlazi" na engleskom zaista nema nikakvog smisla. Tesko je i meni da protumacim sta si hteo da kazes a kako li je tek ostalima ovde na forumu?
Samo dzaba trosis vreme sa tim. Ako imas sta ozbiljno da kazes i zelis da to vide i razumeju svi na forumu onda napisi bre brale to na srpskom i ja cu ti prevesti ovde da svi razumeju.
Slusaj; meni nije cilj da te ismevam i da te diskreditujem ovde. Nije lepo i nije fer i naravno nije ljudski.
Taj detektor je Zeljkov intelektualni rad ali je sad u tvom vlasnistvu i niko ti ne moze braniti da po njemu prchkash i cackash koliko hoces, tvoja volja. Ali nemoj ovde da se pojavljujes i javno tvrdis kako je to tvoj licni intelektualni rad jer to nije istina. Zeljko je bio moj licni prijatelj ja se osecam jako lose kad vidim takvo ponasanje.
Ako si ista radio i modifikovao na tom detektoru onda mozes lepo napisati sta si radio i kako si ga unapredio, to ti niko ne brani. I mozes to objaviti kao tvoj licni dodatak na njegov vec zavresn projekat. I to ti niko ne brani. Ali bi bilo fer sa tvoje strane da u startu kazes da je to intelektualni rad njegov.
Mozes sve to napisati ali i ne moras. Niko te ne tera niti te moze naterati. Takodje da bi sve to zaista ostali mogli da procitaju i razumeju ti napisi i daj ovde a ja cu to prevesti na Engleski.
Ili ako neces da ja prevodim, nema frke, daj nekome ko to moze da uradi bez gresaka. Ali okani se vise tih programa prevodica jer to sto ispada iz njih ne lici ni na sta niti ima smisla.

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Orbit don't use that translator any more because it is not translating properly at all. Results we can see here are without much of sence.
It is difficult even to me to understand your points, not to mention other people here.
You are wasting yout time with that (translator).
If you have something really interesting and serious to tell here and you want others to read and understand, than write that on serbian here and i will translate it for you (at least more properly than it is now).

Listen; it is not my goal to make fun of you here or to discredit you here. Not nice and not fair and not human.
That detector is Jacdetect's intelectual product, and now you own it, so nobody can stop you to do with it anything you want. It is up to your free will.
But DO NOT come here and claim it was "your" cose it is not.
If you really ever done anything on it; modded it, changed something, added something...than you can write here details ..or not, again it is up to your free will.
Again i could translate that to English.
If you don't want exactly me to help you in translation, no problem; ask somebody else who can do that properly.
But do not use those translator, you used so far, cose it gives funny translations, without much of sence.

[peroon]

Cesar I'm in some way mention the conversion serbijan most vanted, I gave dvozvucne bonding pattern of discrimination, but not anybody down, but I made him under the name Gold Rover, a scheme comes from my good friend Stanimir. And not from some who themselves proclaim the great masters of this forum and know who is who log on the forum who knows the names of Kolko writes Cesar because I was there wrote Gold Rover. And here you cesar in SMD. ha ha ha haha




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Let me see.... you have there Jackdetect's handmade, you have there broken GP3500 .....and you heve there "Caesar" copy ....hmmm!?!?

Lose si ti sve to protumacio i skapirao brale. To sto ti sad ovde pricas niko ti od ovih sa foruma nece razumeti . Ali ja ipak ponesto razumem.
Stanimir je ok lik i ja ga cenim. Ali imas ti tu jos nekog "saptaca" i "savetodavca" koji ti puni glavu slicnim glupostima. Taj je najveci smrdljivac u zemlji Srbiji. Kako taj seje tako ce i poznjeti.
Nemoj da si naivan i da prihvatas sve za istinu sto cujes od ostalih.
Razmisljaj malo i svojom glavom.
Ti si dobio semu od Stanka. Stanko je dobio semu od ko zna koga i kada ali najpre ce biti da je dobio od Stilijana iz Bugarske. A tu je i Zoran iz Brusnika koji takodje pravi Cezare i u stvari Zoran je prvi i dao to ime tom detektoru.
A ja sam i semu i prvu verziju plocice dobio jako davno od jednog prijatelja iz istocne Bugarske, medju gomilom ostalih sema. Sve dok nisam video prvi "Cezar" rucni rad, koji je inace napravio Zoran iz Brusnika, ja dotle nisam ni hteo da pravim taj detektor. Imao sam i prece i bolje projekte pre toga.
Kada sam video tog Zoranovog Cezara shvatio sam da tu mozda ima potencijala. U medjuvremenu sam i sa Stankom poceo da saradjujem pa sam video da i on radi isto to (mada je on otisao najdalje od svih i dosta je toga unapredio i izmenio).
I tako je sve krenulo.
Niti Stanko niti Zoran nisu takvi losi karakteri da pricaju svasta i da ti pune glavu glupostima, naprotiv to su korektni likovi i to znam pouzdano. Ima tu jedno djubre iz okoline koje nema blage veze sa mozgom, ne raspoznaje niti otpornik od kondenzatora, ali zato ide svuda redom gde ga neznaju i prica kako je ekspert za detektore. Taj isti lik je i tebe iskoristavao vise puta a da ti to nisi znao.
Tvoj problem je sto si odsecen od sveta. Nemas telefon, nemas internet i ne cujes se sa ljudima. Bar je tako bilo do skora. Ako se to izmenilo i ako sada imas internet znaj da mi je jako drago zbog toga i da bih voleo da se cujem sa tobom preko nekog mesendzera. Samo reci kog i kako da te nadjem.
Dakle to djubre od coveka je tada zloupotrebljavalo to sto si odsecen od sveta i iskoristavalo tvoj rad i tvoju muku.
To se mene ne bi ticalo uopste da nisam i sam licno pogodjen takvim ponasanjem. Evo sad se pojavljujes ovde i pises razne aluzije na temu ovoga i onoga a ja u tim recima ne prepoznajem tebe i tvoje reci vec vidim i prepoznajem slicne price koje sam cuo od mnogih drugih koji su mi pricalii kako to djubre od coveka ide po Srbij i prica unaokolo.
Dakle tvoje je greska u tome sto slusas i verujes u nesto sto nije tacno. Umesto da si me kontaktirao i da kroz pricu sa mnom proveris sta je tacno a sta nije.
Ja se neznam licno sa Zoranom ali znam da je prilicno korektan covek. Znam se sa Stanimirom licno i znam da je odlican lik i kao covek i kao samograditelj detektora. Tebe znam povrsno ali sam cuo da si takodje korektan covek. Pa zasto onda svi mi da trpimo zulum jednog djubreta koje ide redom medju nama i pronosi lazne price koje nas samo jos vise svadjaju i onemogucuju ikakvu saradnju medju nama? Zar smo mi svi toliko glupi?
Zar nije pametnije da se druzimo i saradjujemo?

[peroon]

To other members:
It would be trivial job me to translate whole my previous post. So i'll just explain it in short.
I am trying to persuade this Orbit guy to accept somebody else to translate his posts and ideas, me or somebody else - BUT NOT to continue to use that poor translator any more.
Also i am trying to explain to him real situation between diy'ers here in local, like who is who and who he should respect more and who less.
Just realized that this Orbit guy is new here on this forum and he doesn't know some local facts so to easy come here in public and posts local rumors like that.
It seems to me that this guy is not bad at all, but maybe just naive a bit.
So i am trying to correct him a bit and to initiate him here on more proper way. Fact that his English is close to none is not important as long as he has something real to say and offer on md subject here on these forums.
So as i heard so far this guy is pretty persistent enthusiast and he was done much diy projects so far.
So it would be good to have him here as forum contributor...in case he accept invitation.
His fault was only because he didn't started his appearance here on proper way. But now, knowing that his English is very poor, i can partially understand why he didn't explained facts about Jackdetect's detector.
So i do sincerely hope that certain conflicts are overcomed now.
I can translate his ideas but i can not speak in his name here. So we must wait his answer now...

[kt315]

cesar smd

folks, can anyone from you say WHAT it was?

[peroon]

folks, can anyone from you say WHAT it was?

Good question!

[Orbit]

U redu je Ivice potpuno se slazem sa tobom ,pogotovo tog sto spominjes i koji zaista ne raspoznaje ni kondenzatore a ni otopornike , ali najvise para napravio od svih nas u kompletu . Isto imam misljenje o njemu kao i ti .Nemam nista protiv da se cujemo na skajpu , trenutno mi ne radi ovih dana to cu da sredim . A lose si shvatio da sam ja zeleo da to predstavim kao moj licni rad hteo sam coveku koji je hteo da vidi to negde da postavim da vidi kako izgleda pover pulse . Pa me ti nazva svakojakim recima , sto se Stanka tice ja i on se znamo sigurno 14 godina I danas se druzimo . A konkretno sve sto si shvatio od onog sto sam napisao je cela istina da taj detektor nije bio dovrsen i da se kupci zalili na njega, pogotovo je imao problema sa graund balansom i skoro nikako nije radio u disk modu , ni domet ni stabilnost- Pozdrav.

[peroon]

U redu je Ivice potpuno se slazem sa tobom ,pogotovo tog sto spominjes i koji zaista ne raspoznaje ni kondenzatore a ni otopornike , ali najvise para napravio od svih nas u kompletu . Isto imam misljenje o njemu kao i ti .Nemam nista protiv da se cujemo na skajpu , trenutno mi ne radi ovih dana to cu da sredim . A lose si shvatio da sam ja zeleo da to predstavim kao moj licni rad hteo sam coveku koji je hteo da vidi to negde da postavim da vidi kako izgleda pover pulse . Pa me ti nazva svakojakim recima , sto se Stanka tice ja i on se znamo sigurno 14 godina I danas se druzimo . A konkretno sve sto si shvatio od onog sto sam napisao je cela istina da taj detektor nije bio dovrsen i da se kupci zalili na njega, pogotovo je imao problema sa graund balansom i skoro nikako nije radio u disk modu , ni domet ni stabilnost- Pozdrav.

Shorted translation would be:

All right. I agree with you on local issues you've been talked about.
About Jackdetect's detector; you missunderstood me, i never said it was "my" as intelectual property, i said it was "my" as just property. And also i did make major changes on it already, because it has some lacks. Those lacks made it almost like half finished. That's what i ment.
Previous customers of this detector complained on it's lacks. Bad GEB behavior, Disc was second to none and depths were not good.
So i had to do something.
...
I have nothing against to keep in touch with you and we can meet on Skype.

[peroon]

I am very glad to hear this from Orbit. It proves his good temper.
So i made mistake accusing him on something he never did.
I AM SORRY - want to say that in public, so everyone to read.
MY MISTAKE i admit and accept.
Also i am very satisfied because he will be present here more in future.
I also must say that i did mistake because of the memory on my dear friend Jackdetect.
Now, as Orbit is here i will try to help him presenting his work and ideas.

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Prevod:
Vrlo mi je drago da cujem ovakav stav od Orbita. To dokazuje njegovu dobru narav.
Dakle napravio sam gresku optuzivsi ga da je uradio nesto sto on nije.
ZAO MI JE - zelim da ovo kazem javno, tako da svi ostali ovo procitaju.
MOJA GRESKA priznajem i prihvatam.
Takodje sam vrlo zadovoljan sto ce on i dalje biti ovde.
Moram napomenuti da sam pogresio, zbog uspomene na mog dragog prijatelja Zeljka.
Sad kad je Orbit ovde, na dalje cu mu pomoci u predstavljanju njegovog rada i ideja.

[peroon]

Orbit daj neki mail da se cujemo za pocetak... posalji mi ovde na PM (privatne poruke). Kliknes na moj nick i imas opciju "Send private message"...

[Orbit]

Please if anyone has a scheme for ceskop 1000 thanks in advance

[Orbit]

folks, can anyone from you say WHAT it was?

Da se ne bunite sta je to na plocici u smd . Ovo je vajts idh sa nekim izmenama koji sa koncentricnom sondom od 24cm ima domet na bakarnu plocu 30 puta 30 cm precnik , 170 do180cm u vazduhu . a na novcic 20mm domet 45 do 55cm .

[kt315]

I am very glad to hear this from Orbit. It proves his good temper.
So i made mistake accusing him on something he never did.
I AM SORRY - want to say that in public, so everyone to read.
MY MISTAKE i admit and accept.
Also i am very satisfied because he will be present here more in future.
I also must say that i did mistake because of the memory on my dear friend Jackdetect.
Now, as Orbit is here i will try to help him presenting his work and ideas.

I am feeling must to clear up the situation.

1. jackdetect did not have an interest in PI detectors absoliutely. he did release nothing from forum PI projects.
2. jackdetect repeated the schematic he re-traced himself from a PCB and described as 'Fisher'. we know now - it was some White's Classic prototype only he got of.
3. he also retraced Fisher CZ-5 schematic from original PCB and maybe released, I do not know about last.

[Orbit]

Pover pulse bi level ,Ekstrem 9 modifikovani cao. Najbolji od najbolieg

[Orbit]

GS 4 modifikovani .

[WM6]

Pover pulse bi level ,Ekstrem 9 modifikovani cao. Najbolji od najbolieg

Izvini ali ako je tako dobar kao sto su ove tvoje fotke onda ne vredi nista. Daj ucini nesto na tom planu, barem dvoje: 1.) fotka apsolutno treba da bude ostra i 2.) fotka za forum nek ne prelazi VGA rezoluciju (640x480) odnosno treba da sva stane na ekran odjednom.

[Orbit]

Da hocu , kolko vidim borovnica pise odlicno na srbskom jeziku al taki su slovenci pa neki Jare koji hoce sve bez pare pa neki dosa itd.

[Vladimir]

The problem is because everyone wants to sit and wait all over and finished. Not all but most people on this forum. All some "amateurs".
When they give everything and when it is not up and running properly, then they all spit and blame because they allegedly did not give a good scheme.
I would like to see critics people that they start a project, or something new that they are constructed, presented at the forum.
The purpose of these forums is to develop better design, not just stealing someone's knowledge and work!

[maikl]

Da hocu , kolko vidim borovnica pise odlicno na srbskom jeziku al taki su slovenci pa neki Jare koji hoce sve bez pare pa neki dosa itd.

Two pages of the board, and nowhere does the scheme. Who wants to publish the scheme "extreme 9"?Zemljak nije strasno sto neznas da koristis prevodilac strasno je sto ni maternji jezik neznas.Pozdrav.

[Orbit]

Da neznam mater ti al znam , druge stvari djubre jedno neotesano ti znas ako sve znas sta ces uopste gde ti mesto nije majmune jedan znas kada ces od mene semu da dobijes kad na vrbu rodi grozdje.

[Orbit]

A moj savet ti je ne diraj mecku dok spava , jer mozes da upoznas i drugu stranu karaktra osobe i ako je znas i ako je neznas budi miran samo to ti je moj savet .

[maikl]

Da neznam mater ti al znam , druge stvari djubre jedno neotesano ti znas ako sve znas sta ces uopste gde ti mesto nije majmune jedan znas kada ces od mene semu da dobijes kad na vrbu rodi grozdje.

ORBIT ili NESA DETEKTOR(Matejević Nenad-traktrorista iz Zajecara) nemoj biti GOVEDO.Nije lepo psovati ovo je kulturan svet.Ovo si probao i na "ES forumu" pa te ADMINISTRATOR prebacio u cekaonicu.

[Orbit]

Ja tebe nisam dirao ivice iz sokobanje koji imas hiljadu imena na geotecu a vidim koliko si ti kulturan samo da znas da ja nemam nameru da se sa tobom prepirem ovde i nisam ti bre ja ivica iz zajecara nemoj vise da me kacis da ti se ne desi neko cudo bolje cuti i gledaj svoja posla samo miran budi opet ti kazem sokobanja je blizu videces ko je govedo .