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Same as the Famous Trails 7012?Originally posted by amtech2005 View PostNelson, The modification for this 63-3006ss should be identical to the 63-3005 modification posted a few months ago. Kt315 will translate the russian page when he reads your post above, if not I will post some of the information later...These are the 4 "Cheapest" Micronta VLF'S from Radio Shack that I know of. And now a bunch are being "Made in China" for Harbor Freight , Vellemans, and the Famous Trails in the last photo which is identical to Estebans also !!!...........Eugene
I have one of those.
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hi nelson, did y finish MD-3006ss mod. how it works? I found lots of coins and sam silver on beach, so is it worth to modified it?
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you say rubbish , it picks up the fridge , cooker and sink at 2 feet ,
all the best.
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cheers qiaozhi ,
have seen the 4003 posted a few times here , that's the "more advanced"
model with 3x9v batteries and very different to the 4001 with 6xaa's , 2 knobs , 1 button.
suspect there will be some similarities , my TX drive doesnt have a diode , i don't think.
finding info on the 4001 is difficult , do you think it's a rare model , may have collectors value , certanly doesn't have much use value at the moment .
allthough nice case and meter , may gut it and install new board / coil .
cheers for responce.
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I only have the 4003, if that's any use.Originally posted by DOOLEY View Posthas anyone got the schematic for the 4001 model ??Attached Files
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ref : micronta
hello all ,
just been reading this thread regarding varius micronta detectors ,
has anyone got the schematic for the 4001 model ??
i have the 4001 model , and would like to study schematic and try to make it better so it's more useable ,
the coil is also a little confusing if anyone has some info on it , looks like standard arangement with bucking coil , but when testing , it would appear that the RX is connected to the TX , about 8 ohms or there abouts , confusing.
have tried to give her more power by changing the TX transistor to a higher gain higher power type , but with no real success , still only 4 inches on a 20mm nickle or copper coin.
any info greatfully recieved , i use a home built PI and "the boy" uses the 4001 , we also use it for pinpointing and FE indication , but due to the lack of depth he is getting bored with the hobby , it's like fishing , catch a fish , hooked for life , so would like to improve on the destign if possible.
thank you in advance for any info.
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i found one of these in a skip
the detector on the white table with just the two controls the one i have looks like it.it has only six transistors in it no ic's.it is quite sensitive for small items.it has md -89n made in china.Originally posted by amtech2005 View PostNelson, The modification for this 63-3006ss should be identical to the 63-3005 modification posted a few months ago. Kt315 will translate the russian page when he reads your post above, if not I will post some of the information later...These are the 4 "Cheapest" Micronta VLF'S from Radio Shack that I know of. And now a bunch are being "Made in China" for Harbor Freight , Vellemans, and the Famous Trails in the last photo which is identical to Estebans also !!!...........Eugene
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Hi,Originally posted by amtech2005 View PostHello Nelson , I think your detector is very similar to the schematic of the "Shadow project" I posted here ...I think It is one of the best vlf detector projects Carl has posted over on the Thunting site . For 1980 , this was ahead of its Time . The shadow article says it detected a single coin to 12 inches
maybe??? Anyway check out the very close 'similarities" and best of luck............Eugene51
yes it was interesting. Coil data are not available from the article but I think really it was capable of 12'' in air detection over a coin like an half-crown (32mm).
It was also about simple respect to others but sure with good disc features.
I think it's limitation was about the 4 batteries required... not that good , and of course, weight issues and complexity during use.
Kind regards,
Max
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Hello Nelson , I think your detector is very similar to the schematic of the "Shadow project" I posted here ...I think It is one of the best vlf detector projects Carl has posted over on the Thunting site . For 1980 , this was ahead of its Time . The shadow article says it detected a single coin to 12 inches
maybe??? Anyway check out the very close 'similarities" and best of luck............Eugene51
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Hi Eugene and thanks for your help.
Yes, people who know this detector, said that has a good hiden potencial after a few mods.
I ll follow your advices to see if i can make this MD work has a champ.
Russian id hard for me to translate, so i just tryied online translators, but this is not has good has a native speaker translation.
I wich some of the good friends here can traslate my previus post to english.
Take care
Nelson
Santiagp-CHILE, SA.
Originally posted by Radio Shack View PostNelson , Your English is not bad . Your Russian is Perfect !!! You made a "Big Post" here , bigger than any of my posts ever !!! The first thing you should do is try a 8 inch or 10 inch open face "Bounty Hunter" Search coil , Just make sure the 4 or 5 connector pins are the same , check your tx and rx continuity so they are not crossed . The 7 or 7.25 inch is Bounty Hunters Cheapest Coil , I would not mess with it !!!!!!!!!! Test with a 8 or 10 inch then work on your Transmit circuit Modifications. The famous trail detectors are more expensive than Bounty Hunter !!!! I guess they have to be copied over in China and then shipped back over here again !!!! Please look for the "VLF-SHADOW" detector schematic I posted and compare the Schematics , use the shadows TX circuit , or the russian mods . It sounds like your tx transistor is being overdriven , or you have drifted off frequency , check if that detector is 13 or 15 khz ????..I cant remember ???..............Your Detector will work very Good after the Modifications are correct..................Take Care..................Bye............Eugene
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Nelson , Your English is not bad . Your Russian is Perfect !!! You made a "Big Post" here , bigger than any of my posts ever !!! The first thing you should do is try a 8 inch or 10 inch open face "Bounty Hunter" Search coil , Just make sure the 4 or 5 connector pins are the same , check your tx and rx continuity so they are not crossed . The 7 or 7.25 inch is Bounty Hunters Cheapest Coil , I would not mess with it !!!!!!!!!! Test with a 8 or 10 inch then work on your Transmit circuit Modifications. The famous trail detectors are more expensive than Bounty Hunter !!!! I guess they have to be copied over in China and then shipped back over here again !!!! Please look for the "VLF-SHADOW" detector schematic I posted and compare the Schematics , use the shadows TX circuit , or the russian mods . It sounds like your tx transistor is being overdriven , or you have drifted off frequency , check if that detector is 13 or 15 khz ????..I cant remember ???..............Your Detector will work very Good after the Modifications are correct..................Take Care..................Bye............Eugene
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