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  • Qiaozhi
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    Originally posted by Altra View Post
    The only other diy floating head project I have found.

    http://www.robio.be/cnc/final/index.htm
    OK - I understand what the floating head is supposed to achieve. i.e. to make sure you get a constant depth of cut across the whole surface. But I have to admit that I don't understand how this actually works. I couldn't find a satisfactory explanation by googling.

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  • WM6
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    Originally posted by Altra View Post
    The only other diy floating head project I have found.

    http://www.robio.be/cnc/final/index.htm

    Very clear pictures.

    How positioning with floating head perform? Isn't someway difficult, cause spindle is not really well visible?

    Sorry but I do not understand your micrometer fitting and functioning (look at pic):
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  • Altra
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    The only other diy floating head project I have found.

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  • Altra
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    The official video skips that step, they have to change bits. Thats why the first video is great to study, it shows all.

    The nose cone on mine is nylon. You could use teflon, polyprop, delrin etc.

    Photo of the three main pcb bits I use. From right to left
    Right- Drill bit for thru hole components
    Center - carbide "v-bit" 60 degree, used to cut the copper isolation between traces
    Left - Router Bit used for cutting the pcb outline

    Second photo adjustable floating head, needs more work
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  • WM6
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    Thank you Altra, very much.

    Those floating head is really a good idea.

    As I understand from Denford official video, they engrave PCB and bore holes in one step, without changing grinder/cutter and adapting his depth? Is it true? How?

    What material is cutting drill suction and distancing ring of? Out of Teflon (PTFE)?

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  • Altra
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    Here are two videos. The first is with a home built machine and no floating head attachment. Everything has to be perfect or the cut will be too deep/shallow. The bits tend to break often.



    http://www.imsolidstate.com/archives/category/cnc

    The second video is a low end commercial cnc router with a floating head. I copied it almost exactly on my machine and it has made pcbs easy. Never break bits anymore, constant depth of cuts.

    Denford probably wishes they hadn't posted a video of their proto. On the net forever

    http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...57761193093037#

    Official video



    Here's my clone. A new micrometer adjustable one is in the works
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  • Altra
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    Originally posted by WM6 View Post

    Two questions:

    - how did you fixed "PCB" material used for sensor from 1st pic before grinding/cutting it around (through middle hole?)?,

    - how many two sided PCB-s of say about 10x10cm (4x4")can last one drill before you need to change it?
    Question 1 - I use tape or a few clamps on top of a sheet of scrap wood/plastic material.
    The holes are drilled first, then the outline is cut. On those parts I used a screw driver to hold each one in place for the final cut. In production you can draw thin tabs which hold the part in place.

    Question 2 - I don't know. But I think quite a few. All the V cutters are solid carbide and stay sharp for many cuts. Carbide steel is very brittle and will break if dropped on the floor or you try to take too heavy a cut.

    The trick to engraving circuit boards reliably is a "floating head" attachment. This maintains a constant cutting depth on uneven pcb material. I'll post some more info later.

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  • WM6
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    Originally posted by Altra View Post

    Qiaozhi,
    My cnc is a recycled automated IC wafer tester.

    Here's some stuff I have made
    Very impressive machine.

    Two questions:

    - how did you fixed "PCB" material used for sensor from 1st pic before grinding/cutting it around (through middle hole?)?,

    - how many two sided PCB-s of say about 10x10cm (4x4")can last one drill before you need to change it?

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  • Qiaozhi
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    Originally posted by Altra View Post
    Qiaozhi,
    My cnc is a recycled automated IC wafer tester. It came from
    Applied Materials in San Jose and was going to the crusher.
    Lucky for me a friend saved it.

    I added the z-axis, motor drivers and RS232 interface.
    Very useful for cutting out panels, making widgets and engraving pcb's.

    For lots of diy builds, check out CNCZONE.COM forums. Many machines on ebay also.

    If anybody wants to start a thread under off topic or general, I would
    be happy answer any questions.

    Here's some stuff I have made
    Now I'm jealous ...

    Recently I've been looking at various hobby CNC milling machines, either as complete units or as a kit. The complete units are so horrendously expensive that a kit, or a build from the ground up, seems the only way to go. There are several DIY units on youtube - some better than others - but it would be good to know what other members here have done. In particular, I'm interested in PCB milling / drilling and making "widgets".

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  • Altra
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    DIY CNC Machines

    Qiaozhi,
    My cnc is a recycled automated IC wafer tester. It came from
    Applied Materials in San Jose and was going to the crusher.
    Lucky for me a friend saved it.

    I added the z-axis, motor drivers and RS232 interface.
    Very useful for cutting out panels, making widgets and engraving pcb's.

    For lots of diy builds, check out CNCZONE.COM forums. Many machines on ebay also.

    If anybody wants to start a thread under off topic or general, I would
    be happy answer any questions.

    Here's some stuff I have made
    Attached Files
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