Patent Restrictions?

[Aziz]

BTW, law suit re QED:

https://www.comcourts.gov.au/file/Fe...strong>:void(0);

07-Feb-2013

9:45

Directions

Justice Besanko

Court No. 7 Level 7

Finalised - Discontinued/Withdrawn

https://www.comcourts.gov.au/file/Fe...ocument/314073

I'm curious, whether what will happen in the future.
Aziz

[Qiaozhi]

BTW, law suit re QED:

https://www.comcourts.gov.au/file/Federal/P/SAD226/2012/actions#;javascript<strong></strong>:void(0);

07-Feb-2013

9:45

Directions

Justice Besanko

Court No. 7 Level 7

Finalised - Discontinued/Withdrawn

https://www.comcourts.gov.au/file/Fe...ocument/314073

I'm curious, whether what will happen in the future.
Aziz

Presumably then ...
1, They found nothing to worry about during the disclosure process.
2. They've done a private deal to acquire the IP.
3. They found a patent infringement, and BW has agreed to kill the QED.

Any other possibilities?

[Davor]

Sounds quite inconclusive. I've browsed a few forums for any comments, but there is only silence. Seem as if everyone is still confused. To me it sounds as if BW goes scot free.

About UF trolling ... Messing with apples vs. pears false dilemma is just dumb. Inventors and big companies are as similar as cars and dogs.

Motives and outcome of patenting are also very dissimilar for inventors and companies.

The whole patenting/non-patenting dilemma is false because there are intellectual property protection options beside patents. Unfortunately clever people often get caught in the patenting net and lose everything. Patents are the only way you can actually lose your intellectual property.

IMHO copyright works far better for an inventor, as copyright deals mostly with the idea (unique feature of an inventor), while patents occasionally work fine for heavily lawyered companies, and that deal mostly with judicial/idea-less stuff.


UF, just stop posing as a big shunter. Just stop it! It is beyond you.

[Midas]

Presumably then ...
1, They found nothing to worry about during the disclosure process.
2. They've done a private deal to acquire the IP.
3. They found a patent infringement, and BW has agreed to kill the QED.

Any other possibilities?

They've found a violation but decided to take no further action at this time. Deciding to wait until some substantial sales have been made so they can claim actual damages and justify the cost of further litigation.

[dougAEGPF]

They've found a violation but decided to take no further action at this time.

What violation?
dougAEGPF

[Aziz]

Yup, what violation?

What kind of IP "belongs" to ML?
Aziz

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[Midas]

Yup, what violation?

What kind of IP "belongs" to ML?
Aziz

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The auto-save function of geotech is transmitting the whole post to the geotech server while you edit your text. When "Auto-saved" message appears at the bottom/right, the current edit content will be sent.

Better to use a seperate editor and put the text into the edit box.
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None that I know of. I've already demonstrated I don't know how to read a patent
I was just throwing it out there as another possible option.

Re Autosave, that's pretty much to be expected since its there to preserve your message in case your machine crashes which is most reliably done on an independent machine. It most probably doesn't see human eyes unless its actually posted however I guess your right to point out that its possible. Carl could have a special version of V-bulletin that allows him to read people messages as they are typed. Spooky. It would certainly be nice to have a disable feature.

Midas

[Carl-NC]

No, I don't. I hadn't even thought about the auto-save feature auto-uploading as you type. Now, off to find an auto-save snooper!

[IBGold]

I believe due to health and family reasons because of Minelab's lawyers constant harassment of him BW has capitulated and signed to their demands which I believe were probably to never allow the commercialisation of the patented design never build a metal detector which incorporates ground balance and to indemnify certain members of Minelab if in fact there is an investigation of their dealings by ASIC just my thoughts all I can say it is very dirty pool from a company that many people trusted just goes to show are the rumors I hear from the USA true are Minelab negotiating for Whites if so that will be another independent gone.

Regards, Ian.

[Aziz]

None that I know of. I've already demonstrated I don't know how to read a patent
I was just throwing it out there as another possible option.

Re Autosave, that's pretty much to be expected since its there to preserve your message in case your machine crashes which is most reliably done on an independent machine. It most probably doesn't see human eyes unless its actually posted however I guess your right to point out that its possible. Carl could have a special version of V-bulletin that allows him to read people messages as they are typed. Spooky. It would certainly be nice to have a disable feature.

Midas

I want to test something... just to trigger the red alert state:

-----------------example-----------------
I have the QED sources and I will press the "red button"... HEHEHEHE...
I have the QED sources and I will press the "red button"... HEHEHEHE...
I have the QED sources and I will press the "red button"... HEHEHEHE...
I have the QED sources and I will press the "red button"... HEHEHEHE...
I have the QED sources and I will press the "red button"... HEHEHEHE...
I have the QED sources and I will press the "red button"... HEHEHEHE...
-----------------example-----------------

(now waiting to the auto-save function to alert Carl, George and Whites)...
Ok, it is auto-saved... they should know it....
<beeeeep> <beeeeep> <beeeeep> <beeeeep> <beeeeep>

Just waiting one more auto-save...
Ok, it is sent...

I could have deleted the above edited example joke text and and could have edited a new text and posted it ...
but the former text is already sent to geotech...

You know where the problem is?
Don't type anything what you don't want to be sent there...
This example demonstrates the issue...

Aziz

[vbeeeks]

No presser from either sides - BW vs ML? Or is it yet sub-judice? Maybe year-end Annual audit report will only bring out the ML side of story.

[authere]

I believe due to health and family reasons because of Minelab's lawyers constant harassment of him BW has capitulated and signed to their demands which I believe were probably to never allow the commercialisation of the patented design never build a metal detector which incorporates ground balance and to indemnify certain members of Minelab if in fact there is an investigation of their dealings by ASIC just my thoughts all I can say it is very dirty pool from a company that many people trusted just goes to show are the rumors I hear from the USA true are Minelab negotiating for Whites if so that will be another independent gone.

Regards, Ian.

Hi Ian,

Thats a sad day if what you say is actually happening, BW put a lot of years effort into getting a metal detector up and running that could rival M/L....here's hoping Moodz can bring them undone, as in put them into their place, damn spoiled my day it has....bugger!!!!!

Ron

[Aziz]

Hi Ian,

Thats a sad day if what you say is actually happening, BW put a lot of years effort into getting a metal detector up and running that could rival M/L....here's hoping Moodz can bring them undone, as in put them into their place, damn spoiled my day it has....bugger!!!!!

Ron

Hi Ron,

nothing is lost. It's just the beginning of the revolution.
International projects with many members (like the QED - psssst don't tell this to evil Greedlab) can't be stopped easily. Trust in me.

BTW,
did I tell everyone, that I have nothing - really nothing - to lose? (I can lose millions, billions, who cares? )
did I tell everyone, that I don't have any fear? I'm pi$$ing on judges, courts and lawyers.
did I tell everyone, that I would even go into the jail? (Oh yes, the krauts had their lecture lessons and have given it up )

Greedlab has been warned. But greed & profit interests were obviously much bigger.
And I told you all, that I'm not kidding.
Let's look, whether Greedlab can stop me...

Aziz

[authere]

Hi Ron,

nothing is lost. It's just the beginning of the revolution.
International projects with many members (like the QED - psssst don't tell this to evil Greedlab) can't be stopped easily. Trust in me.

BTW,
did I tell everyone, that I have nothing - really nothing - to lose? (I can lose millions, billions, who cares? )
did I tell everyone, that I don't have any fear? I'm pi$$ing on judges, courts and lawyers.
did I tell everyone, that I would even go into the jail? (Oh yes, the krauts had their lecture lessons and have given it up )

Greedlab has been warned. But greed & profit interests were obviously much bigger.
And I told you all, that I'm not kidding.
Let's look, whether Greedlab can stop me...

Aziz

Hi Aziz,

Looking forward to your unleashing, i hope it's worth the waite!!!!, somebody needs to put them in their place, the heartless pricks

Ron

[PATCHES JUNIOR]

Hi Ian,

Thats a sad day if what you say is actually happening, BW put a lot of years effort into getting a metal detector up and running that could rival M/L....here's hoping Moodz can bring them undone, as in put them into their place, damn spoiled my day it has....bugger!!!!!

Ron

You know as well as any one that if not for Marshall (Doug) Pardee and his years of talking trash, that the QED would not be in the spot it is in. So be sure to thank Doug for all the help!!

I see that Aziz is picking up the slack for Doug now. Everyone knows that "Greedlab" is the same as saying "Minelab" Even Howard Rocky knows that.