Deephunter - THE Newest Hitec Treasure- & Cavity-Finder !

[landman]

Funfinder, I'm ready to buy a coin machine. You've owned many detectors. I respect your experience and opinion. I'm leaning toward the blisstool V5. Any thoughts on your end? Thank you!

[landman]

The other detector I was thinking about was from the Russian line up of AKA detectors. It's new
with a true 2 frequency analyzation. Look at this. https://www.youtube.com/user/Mikronbg

[Funfinder]

Hi landman,

for your professional treasure-hunt you can definitivly get the newest Blisstool 64 v5 "The Beast"
or the new very deep Makro Racer (about the Mikron AKA I have not enough infos at the moment,
Its also a question how good is the customers service, the support and additional equipment)


Per instance the inbuilt lipo akkus of my 5 years old Blisstool are still running 40 hours or more!
Just recharge them once a half year or every 8 months and you're fine. And it could be a good idea
if you get both Blisstool coils (28 & 35 cm) incl. coil-protection cover.


About the Makro Racer: Its more for beginners because its very easy to handle and if you get the
pro-package you'll get alot of additional stuff. Its lightweight, works with 4 AA accus and coils from
12cm to 40cm. (with standard coil inkl. batteries it weights 1,4kg).

I'm amazed how great meanwhile all over Austria and Germany is the feedback for this detector!
It combines modern technology with very good depth and easy handling for a good price and
comes with great support incl. special features like LED light.

btw. do you know the "Diggers"? We have them at Belgium this weekend and there is now
a german spinoff made by "German Treasure Hunter" you can watch on youtube.
I say this because he also already has tested the Makro Racer and he was very pleased with it.


You also can watch this here - unpacking the Racer Pro Package and get directly a silver find.
brand new video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd6GSdq_bi0
For coins the Racer might be easier and faster because you can directly see at the screen
the metal-value and depth but with the Blisstool you also can find cavity and meteorites
and its highly adjustable. The depth should be pretty the same with both detectors.

The frequency is not really that important as long as its around 10kHz.


Good luck and keep us informed about your personal experience with those detectors.

[landman]

Hi Funfinder,

I just bought a used Blisstool V5 off e-bay for $750 includes both coils, Used 2-3 times.
Getting it this week and then I'll be reporting in on the fun-finds!

Also I have a question for you. When you use your cart with wheels to haul
around the T-100 coil. How many cm's is the coil off the ground?
I'm asking because I was wondering if the coil height is less than the 5cm you are
not supposded to go below after ground balancing the unit.

[Funfinder]

This detector absolutly is a good choice for profis, even Carl Moreland whom we have to thank for this looking forward
technical metal detector platform here (incl. the very helping and everyone about this stuff warning LRL-forum) has one.

And personally I also wanna have sooner or later the Blisstool v5 even if I have already some still good working earlier
version. Because I'm shure it's really worth all the new improvements now since 5 years and also the larger 35cm coil.

If you wanna have really cool finds directly in the beginning search with the large coil and
look for huge, at their ends "fainting" signals and set depth and metal disc. both at level 6.
Because otherwise you can find simply everything or toooooo much.

Of course, like with every other detector too, pls use a coil-cover for more security if there are rocks
around or improvise something yourself like winding some gaffer-tape around it, also works well.

You also may use some piece of ferrite or red-brick so you learn how the double-beep sounds.
See here some extremly high mineralized rare erratic boulders you can find with the Blisstool:
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...478#post204478

Set the Silencer knob to almost full, the both ground balance to medium and the sensitivity as far as you
can handle in the beginning the background noise (but very soon that sensitivity will raise alot).

And - not to forget: This detector will be outside of electro-smog double or more sensitive as at home!
I just say this if you wanna try at home some in-air-tests. Per instance I found a very small roman silver coin
with it almost 30cm deep - still only 75 meters away from a high-voltage overland line!
If you listen to the sound and if you can hear the repeatable changes if you move a 2-3 control-times
over a spot compared to the usual background-chatter you can get even the double depth out of it.
This also counts for the DeepHunter where the motion-circuit is yet more immune against electro-smog.
The nonmotion circuit is almost fully immune against it.


Now about the 1m coil for the DeepHunter or Jeohunter.
you can read it here:

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...ight=jeohunter

I have reposted for you the pictures below because it also counts for the DeepHunter.


The coil with my setup is 7-10cm (3-4'') above ground because I used pretty small plastic wheels (13cm diameter or something).

But this works already perfect seen from the ground-balance-stability at sens. 80-90 at flat and not so high mineral. areas!
You even could drag the coil directly by some rope over the meadow if the soil is just medium mineralized with 70% sens.
and some experience!

What really counts is a good working compromise of different area-situations versus depth:
This means if the coil is too high (20cm above ground) its better for harsh regions but then its 10cm less deep
and if its too shallow it may be no longer possible to drag it over not pretty flat areas (over stones, roots, obstacles).

So 7-15 cm is really the best compromise because its versatile for many different locations.

Holding or moving with 2 persons the 1meter coil 30-40cm over the ground may still be ok under special conditions
but it's not recommended because it results in too much loss of depth. The closer to the ground, the better.

And whats also important is the new reset button of the DeepHunter (or the modded one for the Jeohunter)
because that way you can work with a super high sensitivity setting and if you hear some error-signal
its possible to reset it immediatly.



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And now some other important thing and good news how to fix the a few 0,1mm
too loose DeepHunters coil-cable-connector (this is perfectionism, under usual conditions you will
have no problems with it at all as long as its not too cold outside and the coilcable get's pretty stiff) :

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...543#post199543

After the thin drink-can alu-sheet was superglued around it to give it a perfect halt its a good working way
to make the whole contact even more stable by shoving some little alu-foil pieces into the contacts!

This can be pretty simple done by a small needle. Shove it directly inside or even behind the sides of the contacts.
It should be done not all at once but 3 by 3 or something and afterwards plug it in to test that it still can be put in.
The only important thing is: Don't shove too much alu-foil into the connector! Ultra thin 1-2mm pieces are just fine.

[landman]

Hey Funfinder. Take a look at this. I had no idea White's had anything but the 808 2-box model.

[Funfinder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAi4B8U6wTs

If you could use it also as normal metal detector it would be nice.
Of course it detects in its middle the electronic-box first but the sensitivity -
if the coils are just 15cm above the ground - should be still good enough.

Shurely you will NOT cover a large area with sweeps but instead you
have to walk ca. 0,75m - 1,5m narrow rows over a very large area
and you only will find pretty large stuff at all - if there is any at all.
If not, that walking around can become soon very frustrating for you
because in that case you may detect nothing at all!

I doubt it will be able to detect cavity and you have to be careful
about carrying any other metal objects like a shovel on your body or with bags.


Please try it and then take it or leave it.

Because you are a very undecided person who needs the personal expierence first
anyway. You also wanna or have already sold now this highly overpriced
"magnetometer-jacket" where I told you afaik that it will be not the best solution.

If you can see yourself happy holding such a 2box thing in your hand and make
large walks why not? The sensitivity will be shurely not that good and deep as
with the Jeohunters or DeepHunters 1m coil but on the other hand this way you
don't need any rolls or flat regions or a second person and / or you don't have
the hard work to sweep a 45cm coil over the ground. It depends on you -
for better depth it is shurely an option otherwise they wouldn't have built it.

But really don't expect too much depth from this Whites 808 construction!
If you have the possibility test it first or watch youtube clips where other 2 Box detectors
are in action and check out how deep and large is the stuff they and you wanna find.

Good luck and please don't wait too long to write here again...

[landman]

Hi Funfinder,

Please explain how you determine if an object buried in the ground is a shallow smaller target say 10cm x 10 cm
or a larger target say 30cm x 30 cm buried deeper. Can you tell with certainly with the Deephunter?
Do you rely more on the type of sound the machine makes over the target or the visual display? and I'm talking about in Mode 1. Thank you.

[Funfinder]

hi landman,

do you want this to know because you have now the DeepHunter?
However, a 10x10cm target is not really small so it will give also a huge signal like a 30x30cm object.
This means both coils, 45cm and 1m.

As example: a 10cm horseshoe buried 40cm deep will create an almost 50x50cm large constant signal.
This means the distance of the coils center while sweeping it left and right or forth and back.

Usually you can hear already from the lenght of the beep if its a large and deep find,
because even deeper and larger targets will cause the detector to create very huge signals.

A coin per instance will give just a short beep.

On the screen you can see a larger and very flat curve if its a very deep target,
the more flat, the deeper it is.
But if you have some 10cm find just 50cm below you will still get a very powerful signal.

Of course every detector has its limits where the signal starts to get pretty weak.

An 8cm cannonball at 70cm depth buried in mineralized soil still causes a wide-field-signal
but it needs more effort and sensitivity to pick it up compared with something where
you can sweep the coil 20cm over the surface and the signal still is huge and long.

But most of the time with the non-motion mode 1 you will directly hear that its a
large find.
Imagine there would be an invisible little hill directly over the region where you found something.

The more flat and wide this hill is, the larger and deeper is the find.
Lift the coil and find out the borders of this hill so you have already a very fast
impression how large and deep it may be.

If you like to use the DeepHunters depth-scan of course you also can,
but you can save alot time if you just listen to the audio signals and from where to where it goes,
or described visually: which shape it has when you move with the coil over the find.

For a fast check on the display you see how intense is the signal and how long.
Of course the lenght of the audio-signal depends on how fast someone sweeps the coil,
but after some time its pretty clear which is a larger and what is a smaller find.

btw. most of the time its a shallow and medium sized find (5-15cm, like a drink-can)
if you can lift the coil 50cm above the ground and still receive a loud and clear signal.

With some experience you can guess from the radius audio signal while moving
the coil into all possible directions around the find how deep it is and what size it may have.

btw. this technique works with all detectors to find out if the find is close to the surface.

You can test this also in air (or if you put some find on the ground) to see what shape
the coil describes by its signal if you move it over and around the find.

Extreme deep finds will create only a very flat virtual hill but still at least ca. 30x30cm extending.
In other words per instance on the end of the signal the coil can catch it 4cm over the ground while
in the middle of this 30cm diameter circle at 8cm. Comparable with a flat upside down soup-dish!
Such an already pretty widespreaded signal you will get with an 8cm cannonball buried 70cm deep in loamy soil.

But if its a really huge and deep object this diameter may have a size of 40 to 70cm or more and
its pretty easy to catch with the 45cm or 1m coil if the sensitivity was set to high enough!

[landman]

Hi Funfinder,
Here's something I created this while I wait to purchase a good used Golden King. My understanding is the GK's sweep speed, scan speed, ground balance and scan heights are critical for optimum performance. So I created this device.

[Funfinder]

Hi landman,

can't speak for the GK cause I never tested it personally but the speed of the DeepHunter and Jeohunter
is super fast and even usable for whirlwind-search-method (circle around your own body-axis while
moving forwards etc. and making the coil ultra lightweight by anti-gravity-forces).

Your construction looks good and you also may create some plastic-trolly for the 1m coil
so you can drag it with its broad side forwards.

btw. I can tell you now what kind of stones you will find at the region around Machu Piccu:
I got this info from a new docu and btw. ca. 1/4 of all rooms there are below the surface,
so this may be similar at other places at Peru, too.

It is granite of volcanic origin mainly consisting of quartz, feldspar and mica-schist.
The quartz can bear gold or other precious stuff like emeralds (most at Columbia and Brasil).

However this means its medium mineralic which is good for cavity detection.

[landman]

Funfinder do you feel confident swinging your coil faster than what one would imagine one should in order to capture, penetrate and take in the matrix (soil and possible metal object) under the coil, allowing enough time to drink in what lies beneath each pass?

[Funfinder]

Hi Landman,

I would say that being fast is the key to find the real treasures, because that way you can raise your chances extremly.
Last year I found with the Makro Racer and 40cm coil the same amount of cannonballs as in all 5 years before.
By even not highest sensitive vibration modus, but therefore doped by some drinks and loud music!

Of course it's always a compromise.
For extremly weak, small, deep targets its the best to know what is the optimal sweep-speed and
if you search at high sensitivity even 2-3 times over the same area sweeping is needed to get a clear identification
if its a metal-object or just noise.

If you wanna roll the 1m DeepHunter coil over the ground, you can move it with 3meters per second or even more forwards
and you will still get very good results. And you can swing the Makro Racer coil even super fast and receive great signals.

Personally I never could work with P.I. detectors just because of it's far too low reaction speed.
And moving a P.I. coil very fast results in no longer receiving the EM-pulse good enough.

[landman]

I see. So you like the Racer? Have you a chance to use the Garrett AT Pro or AT Gold?
Is the higher frequency of the Gold version of like Nokta Gold, Gold Makro and AT Gold
a better version? I understand they (gold versions) all also have All metal Non motion mode as well.

Is this the coil you prefer?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/2522350...chn=ps&lpid=82

Have you seen these?

http://en.marsmd.com/catalog/mars-md-goliath/

[Funfinder]

Hi landman,

It's not just me who likes the Racer. Henrikras also has it and is very satisfied.
But for me it's perfect at steep mountain regions because of the combination:
super lightweight, deep 40cm coil, very sensitive and detection by vibration.
It even detects larger and surface near heavy mineralized stones or meteorites.

I have 3 different Garrett MDs but no ATs.
If you wanna find small gold stuff with them, the coil-size is what matters.
Keep in mind that Garrett is not very e-smog or mineralized soil "stable".


Those "gold-frequencies" are only useful with small coils - if at all.
10cm and less. Higher frequ. for smaller but not so deep targets.


The ebay link shows the right thing but I don't know if the Goliath from Mars
has been made already Racer compatible. The a bit smaller Discovery coil works:
http://en.marsmd.com/catalog/mars-md-discovery/
btw. I hope that Mars builts some 70cm "giant"-coil! Or Makro!