Pulse Detector Depth Proformance

[6666]

Hi Dave
ok, well you have nothing to loose by asking him, sound him out, you never know your luck.

[daverave]

Hey Dave, you could turn this around , ask your mate for the circuit to his new fancy machine, publish it here and we can turn it into a project, and then you would be able to match all your MD friends on the beach ?

Hi 6666....to be honest i dont think he would share his circuit with me...he texts me at times about his latest proformance but i cant really take it anymore..so ive not answered back...all i know its based on the gs 5 design that was posted on here and he has used cmos chips 4060 with 4017 for tx oscillator and sample pulses and somehow got a very good smooth threshold as he stated...i just cannot compete as i do not have the expertise to equal what he has made.

[Orbit]

This video is meant for slander, nothing more. That same You Tube user (participant of Pulse Relic distribution) have produced in the past a number of distasteful ugly videos against many brands and people.
Nexus Bonanza detects copper very well, but not in Hot Rocks position of the GB switch and this is how the detector is set on this video, intentionally.
In Hot Rocks position Bonanza will reject not only Iron Ore and all hot rocks , but also all large metal objects, because it is designed to work in this way with this setting. The Hot Rocks setting is meant for search of small gold coins and possibly gold nuggets without trouble of anything else.

Every Nexus model can reject all large metal targets and detect only the small ones. It is described under "Special Modes of Operation" section of the User Manual. Apparently this setting is been used for slander now by the suppliers of Pulse Relic metal detector.

It is a common low practice in Eastern Europe to slander someone else in order to elevate their own products.

OK thank you Nexus !

[Nexus]

What's the problem here I've already seen some detectors it does not detect copper ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kXNQOG8ldI

This video is meant for slander, nothing more. That same You Tube user (participant of Pulse Relic distribution) have produced in the past a number of distasteful ugly videos against many brands and people.
Nexus Bonanza detects copper very well, but not in Hot Rocks position of the GB switch and this is how the detector is set on this video, intentionally.
In Hot Rocks position Bonanza will reject not only Iron Ore and all hot rocks , but also all large metal objects, because it is designed to work in this way with this setting. The Hot Rocks setting is meant for search of small gold coins and possibly gold nuggets without trouble of anything else.

Every Nexus model can reject all large metal targets and detect only the small ones. It is described under "Special Modes of Operation" section of the User Manual. Apparently this setting is been used for slander now by the suppliers of Pulse Relic metal detector.

It is a common low practice in Eastern Europe to slander someone else in order to elevate their own products.

[Funfinder]

There's not many people i can really tell my problems to except councellors...i have a large family but i hardly see any of them...i cannot really talk to my wife as she has problems of her own...she is philipino and had a very hard life back in the philippines...my wife and two children are the one's who keep me going in this life !!!! see i got married late in life at the age of 52...i devoted my life to my mother after my dad died when i was fifteen years old...me and mum were together for 52 years..and when she died it hurt me so much loosing her as she was always my best friend in life....we were just very close !!! and mum had an equity release on the home i had lived in for 52 years and when mum died they wanted their money which i could not pay and so i was forced to sell my family home....and now in rented flat near to the sea.

Its always your personal decision to see the things in life as losses or as gains!

But as long as you think about losses you never will be happy! LOL

Simply spoken, you really need some: "Forget it"-attitude.

If Pam Anderson don't wanna be my wife: Scr*w it, she isn't it worth anyway! LOL

Life's a crazy piece of bullsh*t - ending with death - WOW - fantastic! LOL
But because we don't wanna suffer we're trying to make the best out of it.

And if your wife has it's own problems - hell - I would toss her because this is no useful "joint-venture".
A couple has to give comfort and support to each other, this is no damned one way road!

Don't feel yourself offended but I'm rather the tough "uncle doc" instead of the soft to everything yes and amen saying
psychologist! LOL
The world keeps on turning and doesn't cares about personalities who are living in the " good ol' " past
or seeing everything as an unbearable big loss! And only you alone can keep yourself ongoing in life.
If you are laughing the world laughs with you, if you are crying you are crying all alone!
We all lose relatives and friends but we have to be happy with what they gave us and not being sad
for the whole eternal life because they're gone! They wouldn't want that, too.

Lad, you really have to learn to look on the bright side of life, again! LOL
Otherwise: The sea makes no prisoners ... But we will not think that far.
And if all the indoctrinated emotionality drives you insane you must find a way to adjust it at some acceptable level.

[Orbit]

What's the problem here I've already seen some detectors it does not detect copper ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kXNQOG8ldI

[6666]

Hey Dave, you could turn this around , ask your mate for the circuit to his new fancy machine, publish it here and we can turn it into a project, and then you would be able to match all your MD friends on the beach ?

[daverave]

Daverave,
just a few words to tell you that I understand how you feel. May be your problems could be better addressed if you take some time to share things with some people.

There's not many people i can really tell my problems to except councellors...i have a large family but i hardly see any of them...i cannot really talk to my wife as she has problems of her own...she is philipino and had a very hard life back in the philippines...my wife and two children are the one's who keep me going in this life !!!! see i got married late in life at the age of 52...i devoted my life to my mother after my dad died when i was fifteen years old...me and mum were together for 52 years..and when she died it hurt me so much loosing her as she was always my best friend in life....we were just very close !!! and mum had an equity release on the home i had lived in for 52 years and when mum died they wanted their money which i could not pay and so i was forced to sell my family home....and now in rented flat near to the sea.

[Altair]

Daverave,
just a few words to tell you that I understand how you feel. May be your problems could be better addressed if you take some time to share things with some people.

[daverave]

Detailed seen of course there's a difference between (bad) thoughts aka feelings and brain-chemistry:

Per instance It feels painful for my "inner me" when I (it) think(s) about losses which would have been avoidable.
The chemical depression instead is comparable with a really bad hangover after a very long party-night.

The brain strives to feel good or even high by special neuro-transmitters (endorphines, esp. dopamine)
which can cause addictions. To survive, the brain constructed some sort of reward-punishment-system.
The living creature feels satisfaction when it had been successful with looking for food etc.
And for reproduction the brain also kicks in with "staying-together-hormone" oxytocine as reward-system
for striving for sex which even can make the mind "dizzy".

To avoid "brain-chemical" depressions it is important to live healthy - that's clear.
People who only function normally when they drink alot coffee or smoke 40 cigarettes a day
have trained their brain to "calm down" or "wake up" depending on the situation to feel better.
In principle this works like a pain-killer or motivation-pusher but the brain might suffer when
it wants to work against this artificial chemistry like it also happens at the hangover-time.
People addicted to heroine feel very bad when they are not on the drug.

Going out with the metal-detector, having fresh air, bright daylight and seeing distracting things
of course is healthy for the brain-chemistry but also to get rid of "problem-deep-thinking".
However, the brain must not be poisoned by drugs which makes it depressive and
Anti-Depressivas are no wonder-medicine to live all day inside some pink cloud.
Psychoactive substances even can create extreme hyper-sensitivity and then life
can become a real nightmare, because all problems for the brain look extremely huge.


Concerning troublesome thoughts the whole point is motivation:
How lucrative the day can become so it's worth jumping out of the bed!
Lucrative work helps very good because it's distraction and reward in one.

So of course it's logically if someone likes to have a good metal-detector
to raise the chances for success (inclusive his own pleasureful thoughts).
But the personal point of view is at least equally important!


Taking life too seriously leads to frustrating thoughts
while taking it easy and laughing about it leads to joy!
Laughing is a very good medicine against depressions
so its indicated to look for funny and amusing things.

For men it's also adviced to avoid women who are "drama queens"
and who spread the whole day all kind of hyper-sensitive feelings!
They like to make out of every little emotional fly an elephant just for
standing in the middle of all attention - of course this is frustrating!
What they are doing is called: "emotional-environmentally pollution"
which can drive anyone nearby crazy.

Women are crying all the time but men are those who commit much more often
suicide! This truth shows clearly how are the relations of psychic problems in reality!
Lamenting women should be ignored completely even if they start to refuse sex!


Another good trick against depressions is simply thinking about all kind of
wishes and things which would make the personal life really enjoyable and
next becoming active to do something to make those wishes become true.


And last but not least:
Sometimes it's really better not thinking at all and just let the time take care!
Because there is no solution possible or available at the actual moment anyway!

Ive just had lots of problems in my life going back to when i was fifteen years old and about six years ago my mother died and i lost my family home....i have now been benifit capped and lost £110 per month from my housing benifit...and i have lots of debts...and also the system tried to take my wife away from me after i was mourning the death of my mother and put me and my wife through 18 months of hell....its a wonder im still alive with all the depression anxiety stress fear that ive been through...its done much damage to me emotionally...electronics and trying to make detectors has been sometimes a way of escape for me to help forget my problems...when im on the beach with a metal detector in the summer on a low tide and the sun is shinning on the water in the evening its a wonderful way to try and relax. at the moment i just cannot sit down in my little room and do any more to my projects...my mind and thinking is too low for me even to pick up the soldering iron and do anything...i cannot even cope under small pressure anymore....i suffered with depression and anxiety for a long time but loosing my mum and home and the problems i had with the system for 18 months concerning my wife and now being benifit capped and debts have all been too much for me to cope with...ive had councelling many times but still my problems are in my mind.

[Nexus]

Your Nexus MP detector can you find ancient coin at that depth?

Since we have not seen a tape measure what exactly is this depth? I do not trust eye estimates to be accurate enough for any conclusion.
For the record the MP with 13"DD can detect Roman denarius at 35 cm in real search and sesterci (at least 32mm) at 45 cm with reasonable signal. The masters of faint signals could get even better results.

[Funfinder]

You have to stop thinking to end the depression and your wife should cheer you up. LOL
And then get the Makro Racer with vibration and listen to good music while hunting.

Detailed seen of course there's a difference between (bad) thoughts aka feelings and brain-chemistry:

Per instance It feels painful for my "inner me" when I (it) think(s) about losses which would have been avoidable.
The chemical depression instead is comparable with a really bad hangover after a very long party-night.

The brain strives to feel good or even high by special neuro-transmitters (endorphines, esp. dopamine)
which can cause addictions. To survive, the brain constructed some sort of reward-punishment-system.
The living creature feels satisfaction when it had been successful with looking for food etc.
And for reproduction the brain also kicks in with "staying-together-hormone" oxytocine as reward-system
for striving for sex which even can make the mind "dizzy".

To avoid "brain-chemical" depressions it is important to live healthy - that's clear.
People who only function normally when they drink alot coffee or smoke 40 cigarettes a day
have trained their brain to "calm down" or "wake up" depending on the situation to feel better.
In principle this works like a pain-killer or motivation-pusher but the brain might suffer when
it wants to work against this artificial chemistry like it also happens at the hangover-time.
People addicted to heroine feel very bad when they are not on the drug.

Going out with the metal-detector, having fresh air, bright daylight and seeing distracting things
of course is healthy for the brain-chemistry but also to get rid of "problem-deep-thinking".
However, the brain must not be poisoned by drugs which makes it depressive and
Anti-Depressivas are no wonder-medicine to live all day inside some pink cloud.
Psychoactive substances even can create extreme hyper-sensitivity and then life
can become a real nightmare, because all problems for the brain look extremely huge.


Concerning troublesome thoughts the whole point is motivation:
How lucrative the day can become so it's worth jumping out of the bed!
Lucrative work helps very good because it's distraction and reward in one.

So of course it's logically if someone likes to have a good metal-detector
to raise the chances for success (inclusive his own pleasureful thoughts).
But the personal point of view is at least equally important!


Taking life too seriously leads to frustrating thoughts
while taking it easy and laughing about it leads to joy!
Laughing is a very good medicine against depressions
so its indicated to look for funny and amusing things.

For men it's also adviced to avoid women who are "drama queens"
and who spread the whole day all kind of hyper-sensitive feelings!
They like to make out of every little emotional fly an elephant just for
standing in the middle of all attention - of course this is frustrating!
What they are doing is called: "emotional-environmentally pollution"
which can drive anyone nearby crazy.

Women are crying all the time but men are those who commit much more often
suicide! This truth shows clearly how are the relations of psychic problems in reality!
Lamenting women should be ignored completely even if they start to refuse sex!


Another good trick against depressions is simply thinking about all kind of
wishes and things which would make the personal life really enjoyable and
next becoming active to do something to make those wishes become true.


And last but not least:
Sometimes it's really better not thinking at all and just let the time take care!
Because there is no solution possible or available at the actual moment anyway!

[daverave]

i see what you mean about eddy currents being induced into the wet sand and causing a greater range on metal targets...would that give say another inch or two on a fair sized ring or coin ???

[Ferric Toes]

i didnt know that as i was always under the impression that pulse detectors went deeper in wet sand than air...its something i never really tested for in the past.

PI detectors often do go deeper in wet sand provided it is on a conductive sea water beach. On a freshwater lake beach this does not happen. The reason is that although sea water is very much less conductive than any metal, it has a bulk conductivity effect when under the coil. What this means is that eddy currents are induced in the wet sand which diffuse downwards and outwards. These rapidly decaying currents in the sand also induce eddy currents in a coin or ring in the sand, which has the effect of enhancing the field from the coil. Another way of describing it is that it makes the coil appear electrically closer to the target than it really is, hence you can also detect it at a greater range.

This effect has also been observed in geophysical prospecting when looking for metallic orebodies in conductive overburden.

Eric.

[bbsailor]

Hi George...i know what your saying but where i detect on the local beaches good targets are drying up partly cause of some local detectorists who want it all and are hammering the beaches nearly every day with good proformance machines...even old pennies which use to be so common to find are now not hardly being found so the guy i mentioned who has made this deep detector has said that the heavier gold rings and old pennies are now out of range even from detectors like dual fields and some minelabs...one guy who detects nearly every day has bought a white's tdi sl and he is finding gold rings again from worked out places....so i cannot compete with these other guys so it makes one feel like giving up...the guy with the home made deep detector said like about summer finds on the beach coming up....but i dont like having always to compete with other people...and just like to be maybe on a local beach by myself looking for maybe some old items with a machine that has the depth to find out of reach very old items which is more of a challenge to me....maybe im loosing the plot

Dave, and everyone hitting the beach,

Learn to read the beach and find out how deep the hard pack is beneath the loose sand. Most targets in loose sand will gradually sink while the water and waves saturate the sand and then fall down to the layer of the hard pack. Observe the beach wear and first hunt in areas where the loose sand layer is thin or missing due to beach erosion.

In my area, the New Jersey Shore, the spring season brings in more sand and coins get thrown up on the beach. When I find a quarter or heavy coin, I hunt parallel to the water at this point and most coins I find will be quarters or heavier coins. Smaller and lighter coins will be higher up on the beach. The coins seem to be separated by size and weight in lines parallel to the water.

Every beach is different due to:
1. Sand grain size and shape
2. Beach slope and areas of erosion
3. Angle of beach to the prevailing wind and wave action
4. Areas of high beach use in the warm season.

I hope this adds another perspective on finding good things on the beach!

Joseph J. Rogowski