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  • 6666
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    Originally posted by EL NINO View Post
    yes, it's deeper ...in Program Park2,Field2,Gold1,Gold2...
    which model ????

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  • EL NINO
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    yes, it's deeper ...in Program Park2,Field2,Gold1,Gold2...

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  • daverave
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    is the new minelab deeper and better on small gold than say a white's v3i ?????

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  • ivconic
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    ... by taking all the possible harmonics into account too...

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  • Qiaozhi
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    Using the attached Minelab patent, I was able to calculate (and confirm by simulation) that using Fa = 2.5kHz, Fb = 7.5kHz, Fc = 10kHz and Fd = 30kHz, results in a frequency spectrum with F1 = 5kHz, F2 = 10kHz, F3 = 20kHz and F4 = 40kHz. Also, all of these frequencies have equal amplitude. This is with option 1.

    Using option 3: Fa = 7.5kHz, Fb = 12.5kHz, Fc = 15kHz and Fd = 25kHz yields a frequency spectrum with F1 = 5kHz, F2 = 10kHz, F3 = 20kHz and F4 = 40kHz. The same as with Option 1.

    However ... how you can use this method to create a frequency spectrum with 5 frequencies currently has me puzzled.
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  • green
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    The current trace looks like it is constant rate. I'm thinking if coil is switched with a H bridge it probably wouldn't be perfect. Does it need to be constant rate? Some scope pictures showing what happens if it isn't. IB coil with ground as target. Rx signal is flat with current constant rate. Amplitude is proportional to rate so drops off as rate decreases when not controlled due to PS droop, switch and coil resistance.
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  • green
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    Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
    The Minelab Equinox is not a PI, so putting a damping resistor across the coil is not much use. I assume the RX coil is not tuned, and they filter and process each frequency separately.
    I used 2 ohms and 200p for the Rx coil. Would have added to schematic but forgot how. I would think the coil would oscillate without a damping resistor.

    I was thinking they would use a antialiasing filter, sample the signal with an A-D then filter and process the signal with software
    Last edited by green; 05-14-2018, 01:36 PM. Reason: added sentence

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  • Qiaozhi
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    Originally posted by green View Post
    Added target and Rx coil to Qiaozhi's spice model. Wondering if it makes sense. Think can't use a antialiasing filter with a PI but would want to use one to process these signals?
    The Minelab Equinox is not a PI, so putting a damping resistor across the coil is not much use. I assume the RX coil is not tuned, and they filter and process each frequency separately.

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  • green
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    Added target and Rx coil to Qiaozhi's spice model. Wondering if it makes sense. Think can't use a antialiasing filter with a PI but would want to use one to process these signals?
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  • bklein
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    Beach 2 has TX power cut back. A lot quieter in the wet/water. Just not many targets there right now.

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  • Carl-NC
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    Originally posted by Skippy View Post
    Maybe you didn't see my post in the main Nox thread, but it appears Beach1&2 modes use 7.8kHz and 23.4kHz. We're waiting on better data, there may be other alternative freqs in other modes.
    Could be, I only got a short time to look at the 800, and only in Park mode. 39kHz is too high for beach, 23k is usable.

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  • Skippy
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    Maybe you didn't see my post in the main Nox thread, but it appears Beach1&2 modes use 7.8kHz and 23.4kHz. We're waiting on better data, there may be other alternative freqs in other modes.

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  • Qiaozhi
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    It seems to me that the power calculation represents the amount of power lost in the resistive element of the coil, which happens to coincide with the frequencies shown in Minelab's marketing blurb for the Equinox. Whereas the radiated magnetic field is actually dependent on the current. In this case the peaks in the FFT do not match up, so what gives?

    Clearly there is no mistake in deriving the Multi-IQ transmit waveform from Carls' current measurement, as the waveform published by Minelab matches exactly the one shown in post #28.

    It still looks like the real frequencies are 7.8kHz, 18.2kHz and 39kHz.

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    Last edited by Qiaozhi; 05-13-2018, 10:12 AM. Reason: Small typo

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