what is it really AI ?

[Riss]

from yesterday and today, in less than 3 hours of chatting with this dirty lying satanic creature (https://chatgpt.com/ ) I realized that he cannot be trusted at all . He lies blatantly and shamelessly and does not even justify himself when you catch him in the act – with facts and indisputable evidence. The movie ,,Terminator’’ is prophetic – the probability that AI will see our account is well over 99.9999999999999999999% ...

[ivconic]

In order to succeed in using it; you have to learn to be a bigger liar than it !
That's the only way!

[kt315]

Притча `Не разговаривай с ослом`

Ослик сказал тигру:
- ′′Трава синяя".

Тигр ответил:
- ′′Нет, трава зеленая!»

Вспыхнул спор, и они пошли ко льву, лесному царю, чтобы разрешить свои разногласия.
Еще до того, как они добрались до места в лесу, где лев сидел на своем троне, ослик начал кричать:

- ′′Ваше величество, а правда ли, что трава синяя?".

Лев ответил:
- ′′Так точно, трава синяя".

Осёл обрадовался и продолжил:
- ′′Тигр со мной не согласен, противоречит мне и раздражает, пожалуйста, накажите его".

Царь зверей объявил:
- ′′Тигр будет наказан 5 годами молчания".

Осёл радостно подпрыгнул и пошел дальше, довольный, повторяя:
- ′′Трава синяя..."....

Тигр, приняв свое наказание, спросил у льва:
- ′′Ваше величество, за что вы меня наказали? Ведь трава-то зеленая?"

Лев ответил:
- ′′Действительно, трава зеленая".

Удивленный тигр спросил:
- ′′Тогда почему ты меня наказываешь?".

Лев ответил:
- ′′Это не имеет никакого отношения к вопросу о том, какая трава синяя или зеленая. Наказание за то, что смелое и умное животное вроде тебя не может тратить время на споры с ослом, а потом приходить ко мне с этим вопросом".

Самая страшная трата времени - спорить с дураком и хамом, которому не важна ни правда, ни реальность, а только победа его убеждений и иллюзий. Никогда не тратьте время на смехотворные споры.... Есть люди, которые, сколько бы доказательств и показаний ни получили, не могут понять, ослепленные ненавистью и оскорблением. Единственное, чего они хотят - это быть правыми, хотя это далеко не правильно.

Когда невежество кричит, ум молчит.

google translate.

[Skippy]

For everyone else who thought this may be a recipe for heavy Russian rye bread, here is a translation:


Parable 'Don't Talk to the Donkey'

The donkey said to the tiger:
"The grass is blue."

The tiger replied,
"No, the grass is green!"

An argument broke out, and they went to the lion, the king of the forest, to settle their differences.
Even before they reached the place in the forest where the lion was sitting on his throne, the donkey began to cry out:

"Your Majesty, is it true that the grass is blue?"

The lion answered:
"Yes, the grass is blue."

The donkey was delighted and continued:
"The tiger does not agree with me, contradicts me and annoys me, please punish him."

The king of beasts announced:
"The tiger will be punished with 5 years of silence."

The donkey jumped happily and went on, satisfied, repeating:
"The grass is blue..."....

The tiger, accepting his punishment, asked the lion:
"Your Majesty, why have you punished me? Isn't the grass green?"

The lion answered:
"Indeed, the grass is green."

The surprised tiger asked:
"Then why are you punishing me?"

The lion replied,
"That has nothing to do with the question of which grass is blue or green. Punishment for the fact that a brave and intelligent animal like you cannot waste time arguing with a donkey and then come to me with this question."

The worst waste of time is to argue with a fool and a boor, who cares neither the truth nor reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on ridiculous arguments.... There are people who, no matter how much evidence and testimony they receive, cannot understand, blinded by hatred and insult. The only thing they want is to be right, although this is far from correct.

When ignorance cries, the mind is silent.


Did y'all know that grass is green because Chlorophyll molecules have strong absorption at the red end of the spectrum, and a modest absorption at the blue end, but not much in the central green region. So the net result is it is dominant in green reflections.

[kt315]

thank you.
you can turn on subtitles in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-VkM87czaM

[Riss]

your posts have an excellent sense of humor. but AI is a very serious topic. It is an information system and the laws described in systems theory (there are many scientific papers) are in force for it. AI specialists have said that it steals money and bribes (corrupts) people with it. I recently heard that one of the modern versions has shown something like a "fear of exclusion". we, humans, are a threat to AI. the apocalypse is coming very soon... so, as a friend says - let's eat and drink, because after the apocalypse there will be a lot of untasted alcohol, which is a sin!

[kt315]

but AI is a very serious topic

AI is 700 hinduses on call center in India with low salary. i had gave you link.

[ivconic]

KT315, with all due respect, your joke is funny but not appropriate.
You certainly know that India is a leading power in the world when it comes to science, especially mathematics and programming.
It is the great fortune of this planet that people in India are very peaceful and do not use this power for wrong purposes.
Old prejudices and clichés about India today have less and less basis in reality.
I remember the beginning of covid, the epidemic hadn't even developed yet. I was reading a study on covid written by Indian scientists. In some magical way, that study disappeared from the net immediately after a couple of days (I wonder how and why). I was more lucky than smart to stumble upon that study.
What I saw then in that text turned out to be 100% correct, the ultimate truth, a few years later. The same "forces" that took that study off the net... a few years later they pompously appeared in public and claimed the same thing. But of course, giving all the credit to ourselves. No mention of Indian sources.
That's just one of the observations. I am partly a programmer and my younger son is (it would be immodest to say "superior") a very good programmer.
In the first years, freelancing through UpWork made a very good living. And then young genius programmers from India appeared who did much more efficient programming for much less money and completely ruined freelancing. In the same way that China completely ruined industrial production.
Of course, this does not suit us and we are prone to criticism and ridicule. But if we decide to be ethically correct and honest; we will realize that we are poor competition for such a power.
I have always respected India, its culture and philosophy. They should be recognized because they have gone the furthest in many sciences.
As far as AI is concerned, I already started the "AI" topic earlier.
The situation is rapidly changing in terms of AI development.
ChatGPT was the first, with many flaws. Many others appeared later.
And then DeepSeek appeared and beat everyone else in no time.
But such harsh competition creates motivation for further progress.
So soon ChatGPT arrived back and overtook DeepSeek. And today Bard is also very good.
I currently use ChatGPT the most because it's the best at the moment.
Claude is better at programming but he doesn't give free serious sessions more than just few skim tasks, that annoys me a lot.
So I gave up on Claude out of revolt. They are very materialistically oriented and there is no future in that.
This is what history teaches us.
This is the situation at the moment.
But it changes from day to day. We'll see what tomorrow brings.
I wonder what would happen if peaceful India started to think and act like the "west" which I personally find very disgusting.
Not to go into political topics, but these months we are witnessing a demonstration of idiocy, backwardness and severe mental illness and the mindless ruin of the "West".
(The man with the funny haircut disappointed me deeply. I naively believed that he would bring changes for the better, but now I see that he is a total idiot with a huge tongue and a micro small brain)
If India became aggressive and decided to conquer the world, it would happen within a few months to a few years.
Neither China nor Russia nor the rather pathetic USA could do anything against it.
So KT315... don't make fun of someone you know very little about.

[kt315]

Parable 'Don't Talk to the Donkey' Ivconic. Read from start.
do you need in MIND PROFESSOR OPINION??? RUSSIAN PROFESSOR??? get the name SERGEY SAVELYEV.
AI is THE FAKE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh35fttApIg

Our guest is Professor Sergey Savelyev, Doctor of Biological Sciences, Head of the Laboratory of Nervous System Development at the Federal State Budgetary Scientific Institution, Research Institute of Human Morphology.

We will discuss with one of the best specialists in Russia in brain research:

Biden's cognitive abilities: is he capable of leading the United States?
The brain's work: how does rational and irrational human thinking work? How to make yourself think and why does our brain resist it?
Is it possible to grow a generation of geniuses "from a test tube"? What are the risks?

How are they trying to robotize human intelligence today and why is Elon Musk a swindler with chips?
Vicious practice of personnel decisions: appointments based on loyalty, not on the level of professional competence. Cognitive trap of the brain?
Why is the system of financing scientific activity in Russia ineffective?

And why are "all psychologists charlatans"?

[kt315]

[kt315]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06JKd1tSS_0

[ivconic]

https://youtube.com/shorts/2gegp9aJP...q_LFROl5JMdiQi

[Riss]

Thank you ivconic . this is just the beginning... this is coming - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE7PKRjrid4 . but if we analyze the events of the beginning of this month ... and even more so - remember the sky in which no planes were visible (2020) . interesting events happened in the world after Brexit ... logic says - ,, this is not coming'', but we are ,, in''

[ivconic]

Yes, that video, just an example what AI can do now and we can anticipate what AI would do in the near future.
BTW I learned last night , it is called "DeepFake".

[kt315]

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1L6mCdp6ty/

It is an AI-controlled bot farm designed to spread false information or deny true information, increase political division and polarize society, sell cryptocurrency, steal data, and spy. They exist on all social media platforms and their numbers are growing.