Nexus Coil Design

[Unregistered]

I would not take any notice of tests done in any magazines. Magazines will print anything that they think will increase sales of detectors and thus increase advertising revenue. Also always bear in mind that in air tests are the realm of the scoundrel they have no relationship to in the ground performance. There have always been lots of detectors just designed to give good in air ( showroom ) results. Magazine test are next to useless as a guide to how good a detector is. People who do tests for magazines are usually working for some importer or manufacturer and would sell their grandmothers for a cheap detector.

You are probably right, but to my observation no one had ever published any test results measured in any way so far for any detector. I am tolking about the guys who make them. They all say the same "ours isthe best, deepest, we are the leading in the industry" and so on.
That Nexus may be unconventional a bit, but at least comes with some test results which can be confirmed or prove wrong eventualy, which I find to be something new.
If anyone say that Saxon X-1 is better is there any evidence for that or is just another pesonal opinion.

[Unregistered]

would you tell us please what`s the way of doing this?

Ot kade si be Marine?

[marin]

Russe be bate!kaji taja shema deto ja postna Nexus-a zaslujava li si da ja praja?i gledam 4e nekoi elementi ne sa ozna4eni?

[Qiaozhi]

Saxon X-1

Here's the website for the Saxon detectors -> http://home.clara.net/saxons/index.htm

At £1700 it's a little on the expensive side.
Does anyone have any more details on this detector?
Also - is there a copy of the test results available somewhere?

[Unregistered]

Russe be bate!kaji taja shema deto ja postna Nexus-a zaslujava li si da ja praja?i gledam 4e nekoi elementi ne sa ozna4eni?

Prati mi tvoia telefon da ti se obadia.

[marin]

Prati mi tvoia telefon da ti se obadia.

samo kaji kak da ti go pratia-njamam ti meila.Moja go ima v profila mi

[Unregistered]

samo kaji kak da ti go pratia-njamam ti meila.Moja go ima v profila mi

Pusni samo Rusenskite 6 chisla tyka vav foryma.

[Unregistered]

Pusni samo Rusenskite 6 chisla tyka vav foryma.

ako iska6 po isq da se 4uem - 219948265-bg

[Jim]

Hello!?…English please

[digger barns]

I just Skyped a lady in BUlgaria and asked her to translate this. She said it means nothing. Just people slanging at one and other..

[detectoman]

hello qiaozhi

Here's the website for the Saxon detectors -> http://home.clara.net/saxons/index.htm

At £1700 it's a little on the expensive side.
Does anyone have any more details on this detector?
Also - is there a copy of the test results available somewhere?

hi qiaozhi , i made this detector of home clara, whit my owns modifications,
for most power, i add in reference and, induction oscilant , cap of .1 green cap,(four) of polyprophilene in 100 v, this cap, big,( whit insulation, for protection of heat sun on caps) for these little circuit, this add one exceded espectre wave benefics, whit one coil large plate, i put 65 x45 quad coil, for depp . i add too one excess of turns of whire coper in both coils .,@ put added power, wire i build they , on 22 gauge coper enamel
these detector in big coil is very drift , i suggest to you, project on two boxs, of chemelec, whit your owns adaptations, of precision ,
two box of chemelec, is very stable, and power, the bfo is very simple, is basic, for investigations only, is one detector obsolete , for the inestabilized sistem, i am experiment whit he,whit bfo,
build you two boxs, of chemelec, is most secure to succes, no problems
excusme for my english

qiozhi: yo te aconsejo a no seguir con el bfo de casa de clara, a menos que quieras experimentar con el, ese detector construido tal como alli viene no tiene mucha penetracion y puede presentar mucha desestabilidad y la construccion del balance de las dos bobinas , puede resultar critico, yo hice unas modificaciones internas en el el cuadro de rastreo que mide 65 x 45 cms, despues de mucho experimentar y logre sacar de la señal una banda llamada blanca que no produce sonido en la bocina sino solo actua sobre el marcador, solo asi logre la penetracion profunda de ese inestable detector, pero no tuve la precaucion de anotar como yo arme esa bobina de rastreo ni le conte las vueltas y de una manera especial , asi que afortunadamente mi detector pudo penetrar hasta 1,50 m, pero ahora tengo un gran problema por el excedido balance en que quedo el equilibrio de las dos bobinas , la de referenica y la de rastreo, ese problema es el rechazo a tierra, o que yo llamo alta sensibilidad que detecta la masa tierra como una masa aparte,o como un objetivo, sobre eso estoy trabajando y tambien estoy trabajando sobre otro proyecto de ese mismo circuito pero diseñado discriminador, el cual por ser un circuito antiguo y no haber podido conseguir las piezas correctas no he podido hacerlo funcionar, yo te sugiero mejor te avoques sobre el proyecto de dos cajas que presenta chemelec, si logras dominarlo es un detector inmejorable y muy estable, yo hice uno parecido, y logra lo mismo que el bfo inestable que he dicho, pero este no presenta inestabilidad alguna, aunque no se si tenga problemas con otros tipos de suelo, mineralizados o alcalinos o etc, ya que lo he probado solamente en terreno pedregoso
si quieres seguir dialogando esto escribe y te contesto

regards brother qiozhi
detectorista

[Qiaozhi]

Wrong Detector

hi qiaozhi , i made this detector of home clara, whit my owns modifications,
for most power, i add in reference and, induction oscilant , cap of .1 green cap,(four) of polyprophilene in 100 v, this cap, big,( whit insulation, for protection of heat sun on caps) for these little circuit, this add one exceded espectre wave benefics, whit one coil large plate, i put 65 x45 quad coil, for depp . i add too one excess of turns of whire coper in both coils .,@ put added power, wire i build they , on 22 gauge coper enamel
these detector in big coil is very drift , i suggest to you, project on two boxs, of chemelec, whit your owns adaptations, of precision ,
two box of chemelec, is very stable, and power, the bfo is very simple, is basic, for investigations only, is one detector obsolete , for the inestabilized sistem, i am experiment whit he,whit bfo,
build you two boxs, of chemelec, is most secure to succes, no problems
excusme for my english

qiozhi: yo te aconsejo a no seguir con el bfo de casa de clara, a menos que quieras experimentar con el, ese detector construido tal como alli viene no tiene mucha penetracion y puede presentar mucha desestabilidad y la construccion del balance de las dos bobinas , puede resultar critico, yo hice unas modificaciones internas en el el cuadro de rastreo que mide 65 x 45 cms, despues de mucho experimentar y logre sacar de la señal una banda llamada blanca que no produce sonido en la bocina sino solo actua sobre el marcador, solo asi logre la penetracion profunda de ese inestable detector, pero no tuve la precaucion de anotar como yo arme esa bobina de rastreo ni le conte las vueltas y de una manera especial , asi que afortunadamente mi detector pudo penetrar hasta 1,50 m, pero ahora tengo un gran problema por el excedido balance en que quedo el equilibrio de las dos bobinas , la de referenica y la de rastreo, ese problema es el rechazo a tierra, o que yo llamo alta sensibilidad que detecta la masa tierra como una masa aparte,o como un objetivo, sobre eso estoy trabajando y tambien estoy trabajando sobre otro proyecto de ese mismo circuito pero diseñado discriminador, el cual por ser un circuito antiguo y no haber podido conseguir las piezas correctas no he podido hacerlo funcionar, yo te sugiero mejor te avoques sobre el proyecto de dos cajas que presenta chemelec, si logras dominarlo es un detector inmejorable y muy estable, yo hice uno parecido, y logra lo mismo que el bfo inestable que he dicho, pero este no presenta inestabilidad alguna, aunque no se si tenga problemas con otros tipos de suelo, mineralizados o alcalinos o etc, ya que lo he probado solamente en terreno pedregoso
si quieres seguir dialogando esto escribe y te contesto

regards brother qiozhi
detectorista

Hi Detectoman,

I was not asking about the simple Saxon DIY BFO.

An unregistered guest asked this question:

Can you please tell where to find those test results for the Saxon X-1. I have seen the test results in air for the Nexus in the Treasure Hunting magasine. It will be interesting to put those together.

The Saxon I was asking about is this one -> http://home.clara.net/saxons/x-1.htm

[detectoman]

ok qiaozhi excuseme

detectoman

[Unregistered]

Hi Detectoman,

I was not asking about the simple Saxon DIY BFO.

An unregistered guest asked this question:


The Saxon I was asking about is this one -> http://home.clara.net/saxons/x-1.htm

It is strange how so many people out there post BIG STUFF about their favorite detectors, but when asked a simple question as SHOW ME REAL TESTS they are no more.
I think they yell against the Nexus because that guy dare to expose their lies by publishing real test results for his machine.
Is there someone to prove other wise? I still want to see those tests for the Saxon X-1?
After all if proper information is not availeble on someones claims then what is the meaning of all this?
I have visited the web page posted by Qiaoshi. Thanks Q. They also say that their detector is probably the deepest out there. Fine with me, but is there any solid proofe for that claim or I am dealing again with another marketing B......T?

[Qiaozhi]

Web Search

It is strange how so many people out there post BIG STUFF about their favorite detectors, but when asked a simple question as SHOW ME REAL TESTS they are no more.
I think they yell against the Nexus because that guy dare to expose their lies by publishing real test results for his machine.
Is there someone to prove other wise? I still want to see those tests for the Saxon X-1?
After all if proper information is not availeble on someones claims then what is the meaning of all this?
I have visited the web page posted by Qiaoshi. Thanks Q. They also say that their detector is probably the deepest out there. Fine with me, but is there any solid proofe for that claim or I am dealing again with another marketing B......T?

I have tried searching the internet for the alleged report on the Saxon-X1 without any success. It's certainly strange that someone claims to have seen a test report, then cannot produce it.

On the Saxon website they have this to say about test reports:

Metal Detector Field Test Reports

( or should they be called manufactures cozy little write ups )

Metal Detector field test reports are never worth the paper they are printed on. They may have some use as a guide to general appearance and features of a detector but that's about it. There have been hundreds of field tests done over the years and if you read any of them, criticisms of any sort is a very very rare thing indeed.

So why is this? Basically Field tests are just another form of marketing. Magazines do field tests in return for advertising and so there hands are tied. Manufacturers/Importers are very touchy about criticism in any form and will not advertise in any publication that finds faults with a detector. The thing that amazes me is that most people are taken in, hook line and sinker by these reports. How often do you overhear at rallies or club meetings the phrase " I bought it because it got a good field test report ". Nothing gets a bad field test report it just doesn't happen, even if its a complete bunch of crap.

Quite a few years ago one magazine was foolish enough to mention that there was very little repairs and servicing backup on some imported detectors, Something that still applies today ! This led to a major importer at the time from pulling all its advertising for several months, with the resulting loss of quite a few thousand pounds in advertising revenue to the magazine. This was a rap over the knuckles for the publishers and they have never forgot it. They know their place and do as their told.

Many field tests are done by the Manufacturers/Importers themselves. The tester will have some fake name. This saves the publishers the time and trouble. The really great thing about field test reports from the point of the Manufacturers/Importers is that they can exaggerate performance and make false claims for a detector without any come back. Its the testers point of view, nothing to do with them. If some invented tester with a fake name goes out with the latest detector from brand X, and finds a gold coin two feet down. Who can say he didn't. There is a pecking order though. The bigger the advertiser the more you can get away with. Money talks! The customer always comes last.

Although there is some truth in this, it would still be nice to see a report. We can all read between the lines.