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  • #16
    Henrikras wrote:
    Thanks Funfinder...
    Ps. I Just got the Makro Racer a month ago... With all 3 coils. Yes this Detector is AWESOME, allso among iron.
    Made one simple test with some silver coins and last with a 0.55 silver coin (just a little smaller size and weight as my viking coin from the hoard) and a rusty iron nail, and did a Deus vs AT Gold vs the Racer... http://youtu.be/49zl0mhVsHY

    After the test (see it at utube), I found out that the Racer with the Stock coil is much more powerfull and Thats Maybee why only this Detector could get a signal from the coin, close up a iron nail. Because the coin was at the border to the Deus and the AT Gold.
    (Could be the reason that the Deus and the ATG gave a Weak signal without the nail close test)
    Sorry but I haven't readed this post before.

    Thx for the yt clip!

    Your opinion about the Racer and his sensitivity is correct but I found out that
    the DeepHunter with 33cm standard coil motion-circuit is still more sensitive
    and around 15-20% better for e-smog regions and high-mineralized soil.

    Btw. alot persons here also have not honored the Makro Racer!

    I don't know what is their problem, many for shure are addicted to the oldschool P.I. technology
    or they are not that willingly enough to adjust theirselves for the more complex new detectors.


    I don't care, the Racer is THEEE detector so far: Search alot very easy and find alot very easy !!!

    Incl. listening to the best music in loud HiFi Quality while hunting - that rocks!


    Shure iron... - the problem is that every detector will "start" with iron an end with iron.
    Concerning critical and farest depth for fainting targets - no matter what metal they are,
    at the limit region everything first shows up as iron!

    But the Jeohunter and DeepHunter is able to find "below iron".

    Per instance the metalurgic remainings of black-smiths 2000 years ago.
    Consistence like meteorites. Also all kind of mineralized stones.

    There is no 100% iron-discrimination because the deeper the find is and the more
    mineralic is the soil the more the find will say "I am made of iron".


    I don't know the DRS ground Exper PRO but it looks like a P.I. machine
    with its 1m coil and with P.I. you will never get "perfect discrimination"
    because you can get hardly disc. at all.

    And those 1m coils work nice and deep with steady in air tests
    but you must consider to walk around with this stuff, too.


    Why don't you save your money for the moment and use just the Racer with the 40cm coil
    to get an overview over that viking-site ?? Check out an 500x500 square-meter area
    instead of a 50x50 one.

    This way first you can discriminate by size! Which is in the beginning much better
    than by metal. With a little bit of luck you will detect a hoard where the coins are
    very close together inside a pot or long time ago rotten leather-bag!

    Believe me, if you don't go to all available places nearby and hunt over them at least once
    you'll never know what you may miss there!
    If you have found already a place with coins the whole region could be full of valuable stuff!


    But if you are now addicted to the viking coins... - then I recommed that you clear the forest
    first until you can see the tree - that means you will have to dig also some old iron stuff
    so you can be shure that you also found the most deep silver or gold coins! Good Luck!

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    • #17
      But Funfinder..... I has been in mail corresponding with Makro, asking few quenstretion and explaining the Danish search, soil, iron, hopeing that they could explain more about how the deephunter (in mode 1 only with the T44 coil) works in with iron / masking.
      but either they answer in east when I'm asking in West, or they didn't answer my mail.
      yeah it would had been nice to had tryed or test the deephunter, but I didn't get an offer from Makro, that exclusive service.
      In mode 2 (motion) I had no doubt that this Deephunter is AWESOME... But it is to exspensive to buy this only to use in mode 2, Specially when I got deep VLF Detectors allready. (makro racer, Blisstool, Nokta Velox one).
      Funfinder.. You can see that buying the DRS is carrefully considered. Okay I could have been more patient and waited, but it is so hard to find any exsperience arround the World, with any of these type of detectors.
      nice day to you all.
      Henrik

      I saw that you have answered very fast.

      OK, I have direclty time to reply:

      > they could explain more about how the deephunter (in mode 1 only with the T44 coil) works in with iron / masking.


      You can see this detector as "fully adjustable" to the ground! As long as its not completly made of metal, itself!

      This means it will see the difference if there is any - plus or minus, no matter how mineralized is the ground!
      (of course not too extremly)

      For single coins you should use a coil with a size of 25-35cm (15mm coins = 25cm coil, 25mm coins = 35cm coil).

      But for a coin hoard you "must" use a 45cm coil because this ist the way you find it very deep and you
      can search a huge area much faster.


      The Jeo- & DeepHunter's iron masking if using the 45cm coil depends on the shape of the object and if its really iron or if its steel.


      However - if you look for the real deep and larger stuff a 45cm non-motion detector is the minimum.

      And when you try some motion detector with 45cm coil (like I did with Garrett GTI 1500 with special 45cm coil)
      it will be nice and lightweight but it will never be that deep - especially not at mineralized slick or loam
      and if there is e-smog nearby.


      > when I got deep VLF Detectors allready. (makro racer, Blisstool, Nokta Velox one

      It is great that you confirm that all these detectors are very deep - because they really are!
      I know it but some here won't believe it!
      btw. if you have the Velox One it should be pretty the same deep as the CoinFinder CF77.

      You are on the limit! You have already the best stuff for the small finds like coins.



      Let's put it this way:

      The Jeohunter will be around 30% deeper as the: 'Racer & 40cm coil' and the DeepHunter 35% -
      using the non-motion circuit. Because of the slightly larger coil size and the non-motion technology.
      (compared with the Racer and for medium size stuff, very large and deep stuff the Racer may
      no longer find while the both other still do)

      But you have to search more slowly and depending on the sensitivity setting the detector has to
      be sometimes resetted by the reset-button to its "quiet zero zone" how I call it.
      Otherwise you get cavity or metal signal.

      But hunting at sensitivity 80 (out of 100) with slow pace and normal sweeps is no problem -
      you won't get many false signals.
      Especially you will get the right signals from very deep and larger stuff because you will hear
      them for a pretty long time uninterrupted and even if you sweep the coil 20cm above ground.

      I don't know the ground where you are but I guess it might be "sea-loam" or sand mixed with
      all kind of mineralic salts and stuff. I would give it a 70% mineralization.
      Because much earlier those regions have been flooded (ice-age).

      Anyway:
      For coins and discriminating small iron stuff you have already super detectors!

      And the smaller the coil, the better the un-masking - but also the lesser the depth.



      Facit:
      Do you wanna discr. small iron junk but also smaller coins by using a larger coil size
      and / or do you wanna detect the a bit larger (3cm and upwards) but much deeper stuff ?!

      And btw. you also can hunt with the Racer and 40cm coil already very deep, also for coins
      etc. but like with all detectors: slowly and in all-metal-mode to reach the maximum depth.


      Perhaps it would be also good if you check out before by some test-diggings how deep
      the viking-stuff goes: This way you can find out if there really might be more and bigger
      stuff 1m etc. deep or if the find-layer ends already much earlier.

      Of course this is not a very reliable method because if it was some sea or river before,
      the depth and earlier ground conditions could chance after some meters alot.

      And as long as you haven't decided if its lucrative to search also for very deep stuff
      you can bury some of those coins at different depths and test which detector gives the
      best signals. Together with iron stuff nearby or without.


      btw. I can make you great hope: If someone finds such good spots like it seems for me
      you will have found in the end at least the double amount of coins there as it's now!
      Incl. alot other very precious and interesting things!

      Searching there over and over again is all you need to do!

      What now would be important is to know the: "depth-ratio" - it means how many objects
      are buried pretty or very deep at a certain site!
      At some regions even 2000 year old stuff is only 20cm deep
      but at other places just 10 year old finds could be buried in 5m!

      I would say the heavier stuff at your region could be sunken also somehow deeper because I saw a docu
      about some old stone-trading-route (amber) from the Baltic sea (formerly Prussia) and Viking region going
      down to Byzantium (meanwhile Istanbul) and the old settlements there near the sea have been flooded alot.

      Coins even can washed by the flood onto the shore, even gold-coins, no matter how heavy they are.
      It depends on how high is your find-location above sea-level if its a settlement or a broken ship etc.
      And ground also can have been heavily washed away since a very long time like it happened south-west of Denmark.
      And this region there is extremly loamy and was full of salty turf which became the "white gold of Rungholt."

      btw. the following also is pretty interesting - the sunken Mars, found not very far away from Denmark.
      It was the greatest battle-ship at that time, with hundreds of cannons - but the powder-chamber exploded:
      http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-...century-001851

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      • #18
        Thanks Funfinder... Many many things you are Saying is spot on.
        I will try to write short later, but here is my Gps tracking. It would give and idea what place I searching at.
        Attached Files

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        • #19
          This has not much to do with this thread, but more an answer and explaining to Funfinder:
          I made a Test at this spot, 3 detectors in use; One vikingcoin flat side up; Max dept with the XP Deus 9" coil, 10-12cm (GMPower) - White's TDI PRO Stock coil -14-15 cm and with the AT Gold 7"X11" coil in ALL Metal 12-13 cm
          I did this test to help me understand why it was so difficult to find more coins. (It was early in the proces, I could only find 4 coins) ( and it didn't help with a bigger coil)
          At picture 5 you can see the total of 60 cm dept., I call this picture the museum at work.
          Picture 4 and 3 is a test dig by the Local museum, 35 cm deep, and there was 2 coins at 30-35 cm in that hole.
          picture 2 is one day search at the hot spot.. iron, foil and so.
          Picture 1 is an old 2005 foto showing that the field had been used by a Road contracter... (A lot of iron, and so)

          Summary is; The hoard has been spread the first time long time ago, thats why some coin was found deeper
          (deepest coin was at 55 cm) than the farmer plow these days 25-30 cm.
          This field and this spot, where the coins where found got 55-60 cm soil. But it had not been so deep at the time the hoard was hidden... Properly only 35-40 cm, Maybee less. That explains why some coin are spread in the top surface and some was spread many many years ago.
          A 3D waypoint picture would had been nice in this case, but I got the picture plus minus in my head..
          4 coins at 5-15 cm dept. / 10 coins at 15-25 cm dept. / 20 coins at 25-35 cm dept. / and the rest 8 coins 35-55 cm dept

          The hot spot Area is 15 x 6 meters. ( the museum 30 x 10 meters area, to be sure that all coins came up)

          I dont think this area will give more coins... Even with a deephunter (mode 2) or the DRS ground Exper. But I will try.
          Maybee next year after the farmer has plowed, is there a chance to find some few more coins, properly in the other diameter at the hotspot, in the soil were the museum didn't dig.

          6 coins were Very rare (auction prize one of those 4000€)
          One coin was exstremly rare and the first and only seen before (prize unknow but high)
          I will be rewarded by the national museum, not similar UK rare coin finds, but a lot.. (I hope)
          Henrik
          Attached Files

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          • #20
            WOW! After all the info I would say with this region you hit the jackpot!!

            I'm pretty shure there was an old viking settlement and the whole region is full.

            And if those coins are so rare and worth almost 5000 Euro one of them the motivation is very high to get a few more of those!


            btw. thx for the video-test with the iron nail masking!
            Its made very good.

            This is perfect learning by doing and also others can learn something there.
            Of course under usual conditions the nail should be the same deep as the find and
            perhaps 20cm away because if the nail almost or already touches the coil the iron signal
            will be extremly strong and even can overload the whole disc. circuit.

            The soil there really looks like dry loamy - if its wet the detection could be much harder.

            Too bad you don't have the 40cm coil for the Racer or do you have it?
            And if the field is not even but plowed with hills all over etc. its hard to search.
            You may find someone from the streets-builders which can press this whole field totally flat first.

            Too bad the field-machines destroyed some of the coins already heavily.
            But on the other hand this way you have the chance to detect such small coins very easy almost directly at the surface
            if they got there by chance.

            I also would walk with the detector minimum 200 meters into all directions or making larger becoming circles around.

            And one of the youtube comments was right:
            You should try to hunt with Gain 95 (Sensitivity) with the Racer for maximum depth.

            If you can deal with the background noise you will get compared to gain 80 at least 20% more depth.
            Its just a training question until you will hear the finds clearly after repeated sweeps because
            the find signal will remain if there is something.

            But because of the importance and value of this - I think we can really call it: treasure! -
            and the huge size around I really must recommend you at least the 40cm coil for the Racer
            so that you are enabled to check out a large amount of area there.
            And if some of those coins are put out of the ground by the plow etc. anyway
            for shure you also will find it with the 40cm coil.

            Now in the winter-time you also may check out libraries with old history books and maps
            so you may find hints about how it was at that region in very early times.

            If there really was some viking-settlement coins and much more could be virtually everywhere!

            This little search spot is nothing compared to the huge land around.
            Its not even shure if it really was a coin-hoard scattered by agrarculture-machines.

            Anyway, if you was the one and only and first finder I hope you will get a high reward
            which encourages you to hunt further at this region!
            And also that your name shows up among those rare viking artifacts in the science-literature.

            btw. I wonder if there are only silver-coins...

            If I where you I would set the detector to all-metal, set it to highest sensitivity and dig out
            every little piece I'll find no matter what because the chances are very high to find more
            of those extremly rare coins and other stuff.

            And I would check the whole squarekilometer around this place, too!

            First you need the 40cm coil for the Racer, the museum should buy it for you from www.nuggets.at .
            I'm shure this area is full of other 1000 years old rarities and the more ground you touch with
            your coil the higher will be the chances. I'm feeling already some kind of treasure-fever by myself!

            Good luck!


            PS:
            by pure chance I found this Racer depth air test with the new 33cm Discovery coil from Mars, Ukraine:

            http://en.marsmd.com/catalog/mars-md-discovery/

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g95xYdNudBQ
            it was brandnew published on Nov. 17, 2015
            Perhaps meanwhile also the 38cm Goliath coil works with the Racer.

            the homepage is - for Ukraine: www.marsmd.com
            english: http://en.marsmd.com/

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            • #21
              Thanks Funfinder..
              yeah there is a lot of land to search there, and you never know what to find. (We can't ask them (joke)).
              but coil size..!!! I think its a matter of balance, size of the find - dept - mineralization - iron arround...
              bigger coil sees more mineralization and less small finds, and those coins are Very small and I found out by testing with larger coils, that my max. dept one coin wasn't much more, from the 9" to the 11" and next the Big foot (11"-13") Deus coils.
              same seems to me happen, testing with other VLF detectors I had in use at the field. Thats why I prefer coil size 9"-11", or eliptical like the the Racer Stock coil, it isn't so bad. With the pi I'm not so exsperience yet, but that could Maybee be an idea to try different coils.
              The reason could be sandy soil, (like you sayed earlyer) and this sand came from those great sandstorms we had in 15-1600 (Holland had allso those problems)
              I will try hard to find the best tool, fore sure there is more to find.. Now vinter came and its to wet to search, I will damage the farmers corn, but I'm ready to go when the weather change..
              have a nice day.
              Henrik.

              ps.I did see that Mars was ready with the Racer coils..

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              • #22
                Hi Henrik

                would be cool if we can ask the spirits of certain sites or the old oak-trees what has happened around


                Well - coil size absolutly matters and with larger ones your pretty small coins may be hard to detect if
                they are deeper.

                The "genious" idea is to find another coin-spot much faster with a large coil where also the plow
                has turned the ground upside down - so the surface-near small coins will be no problem.

                Since I was using the Racer with 40cm coil all over 2015 you just have to check out the Makro Racer thread here
                to see what are one of the smallest finds I got with it! Pretty amazing 10mm stuff around 5-10cm deep
                and everything by not so ultra sensitive vibration!

                Because it's always the same scheme: first someone finds an interesting artifact by pure chance at an area
                and afterwards this regions gets under the "microscope" to extract every possible find.

                This is the "easy" task because it has become an already know area.

                But treasure-hunters must not forget about locating new promising sites - this also really is fun
                because it has alot to do with newly exploring and discovering unknown treasures or secrets.


                btw. you can make such nail masking tests also at home because with such high valued silver-coins
                the mineralization effect will be almost zero - especially if there is outside just that dry loam-sand mix.


                And I wanna give you another very important tip:

                At home you will have e-smog but this is OK, just use a little bit lower sensitivity:
                Bury one of those silver-coins or something similar in front of the house where is no snow etc.
                and now use the Racer with the 30cm coil. Bury the coin deeper and deeper and train yourself
                until you can recognize the smallest repeatable "snap crackle and pop" still as your coin!

                Because those good signals in the youtube clips are perhaps available at 15cm depth
                but you can go far beyond that and far far deeper!

                Its like a static energy raise from erratic noise level plus or minus 20 to plus or minus 30.

                And the good thing: You can do this with full discrimination.

                If at the moment the focus and priority is on the small silver-coins you're already in a
                fantastic situation because now you are absolutly free to discriminate all the lower stuff.
                And everything is lower than silver - seen from metal-detectors. OK, huge aluminum
                objects may be higher than small silver coins but I hope there will be not that many.

                Since you haven't told it I'm assuming that you don't have so far the 40cm coil
                but this is no problem because of winter time and first testing with the 30cm coil
                how deep you really can get.

                I wanna urge you making those "border-sensitivity-tests" because I found many of the
                most precious stuff just and only with this method.

                Finds that you only hear if you scrub with the coil over the ground or if the ears
                are trained to hear the finds even "within" the erratic noise level.
                This is beyond the good, loud and clear "beep" signals but it really pays off -
                especially if you can filter out everything below silver.

                But because the coins are that small I would set the disc to around 50%
                so you can be shure to find also other more valuable coins and no silver
                coin gets lost because its so small.

                btw. if I'm motivated and you interested I could show and record how those very weak
                but super important find signals sounds and for what exactly you have to listen there.


                The special Mars coils may be a bit more inexpensive but
                in your special case I would go for the original 40cm coil.
                But I would buy the 33cm discovery coil from Mars to check
                out how much better it works compared with the standard coil.



                btw. I have a fantastic idea:
                I will ask Mars Metal Detectors from Kiev, Ukraine, to create a 70cm coil for the Makro Racer !!!
                If Makro itself won't built it!

                The original 40cm coil already is able to detect an usual bike from 2m in air !!! (which is amazing!)
                but for mineralized ground conditions and ultra deep buried stuff a 70cm coil absolutly is a must!

                I wish you alot good motivation also for the winter - we have already 30cm snow everywhere.
                I should be detecting in some nice southern country right now - too much other stuff to do...

                But sometimes I will chance this - winter must not kill my treasure-hunting-enthusiasm!


                Good luck and let yourself celebrate at fancy parties from the history-interested intellectuals!
                Or from crazy collectors ...

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                • #23
                  Hi, are you still interested in the DeepHunter or Jeohunter?

                  If you want it and if you have found those coins with the Racer
                  you should tell it Makro and you may get even very good rewarded.

                  Or perhaps they will help you to find more coins by sending you the 40cm coil.

                  Because its clear that only the best detectors with the best coils will have the best chances
                  to be most successful - same as Makro is already since many many years!


                  Think about it, Henrik. Your coin-hoard might be just the beginning of something much bigger.

                  But perhaps you should be more discreet with all this treasure-hunting stuff so you will get
                  less or no "Indiana Jones"-problems. Of course everything has two sides and what someone
                  more prefers is what counts more, but perhaps its not the best if "Denmark" confiscates all
                  what you have found!

                  By the way I would love to know how long, extensive and expensive was that whole archaeological
                  excavation and what persons or institutions have paid or funded it - if you know that exactly.

                  Because that way I and we all can imagine much better what kind of effort real great finds may cause.

                  Thanks.

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                  • #24

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                    • #25
                      so much SAMSUNG chips and no depth =)

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
                        Hi, are you still interested in the DeepHunter or Jeohunter?

                        If you want it and if you have found those coins with the Racer
                        you should tell it Makro and you may get even very good rewarded.

                        Or perhaps they will help you to find more coins by sending you the 40cm coil.

                        Because its clear that only the best detectors with the best coils will have the best chances
                        to be most successful - same as Makro is already since many many years!


                        Think about it, Henrik. Your coin-hoard might be just the beginning of something much bigger.

                        But perhaps you should be more discreet with all this treasure-hunting stuff so you will get
                        less or no "Indiana Jones"-problems. Of course everything has two sides and what someone
                        more prefers is what counts more, but perhaps its not the best if "Denmark" confiscates all
                        what you have found!

                        By the way I would love to know how long, extensive and expensive was that whole archaeological
                        excavation and what persons or institutions have paid or funded it - if you know that exactly.

                        Because that way I and we all can imagine much better what kind of effort real great finds may cause.

                        Thanks.
                        No I'm gave up The Deephunter, like I said earlyer.. (Se earlyer post) - It now DRS ground Exper, and its on its way from Køln Germany.
                        No I hasn't got the Racer this summer, finding the first coin. So nit much to Makro on this.
                        I will ordre the MARS discover coil (33 cm - 13") like you recommend earlyer.
                        There will be no Indiana Jones or Night walkers, the spot is 5 meter from a Road, and I'm Local knowed, so nobody will have a chance without somebody calls me. (And my sister lives near by allso).

                        This area got a lot of history and there has been found some good finds earlyer, not at this field but some 500-600 meters away.
                        This is the first time my field opens up with viking stuf, and this coin hoard (42 coins) was hidden behind a Big Stone. This Stone were removed many years ago, and then the coin hoard got spread in this little area.
                        This proof with the Stone we found when we came down to the untouch soil, a Big round dark spot was to be seen, a proof that the Stone had its place there before it was removed. And this spot was allso the centre of the hoard.
                        There will be some more coins to find, but not much, and I know this, because every coin found was Gps recorded and its was so easy to see how they got spread from the centre and some meters away.
                        The whole archaeological excavation, took 3 days, each day from 8 am to 5 pm, and we were two detector searcher all time, and the museum came allso with two persons. Not to forget the driver of the Big machine scraping of soil.
                        To do such a job, finding those small coins in a place with iron, we desided only to take of 5 cm at the time, and place the soil not in Big
                        soil pile, but flat out, so we could search this soil Once more. (One Detector in the hole and the other at the flat scraped of soil.)
                        that was a good idea, beacuse there was found more than one coin (or piece of a coin) in the soil there came from the hole.
                        Both Detectors was the Deus 9" coil in Deus fast, with low disc. 17 khz.
                        The last day at excavation and we was now some meters away from the spot, there was no more coins... Then we did some few more meters and still no coins. It was time to stop.
                        One important information to understand how it got spread, is that we got a Road (old Road allso) in one direction, so the hoard could only be spread one way. We did a test dig in the Road, no coins. The Road was allready there when the Stone was removed and they got spread, Thats allso why, only coins in the field.
                        i dont know the excatly cost, but a geuss is 8000-10000 €.
                        This type of finds, old Danish viking coins, some rare and a single Very rare, is important to the history, Thats why the national museum er ready to find the finance.

                        I hope all this make sense...
                        sorry I dont got some picture to show.

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                        • #27
                          I made two hand-draw pictures, to show how the coin was spread...
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                          • #28
                            Wow, very interesting and thx also for the drawings.

                            The old story - treasures hidden nearby or under significant landmarks.
                            Perhaps the stone has marked the road or the distance.

                            Under such circumstances I doubt you will find much more coins nearby
                            but your chances are great finding something other precious if already
                            a few 100m distant was found something.


                            > DRS Ground Exper

                            Well, you can try if some PI penetrates better that mineralized ground you have there
                            but the coil should be small enough for coins and beware: the disc may not work at all!

                            The Mars Discovery coil shurely is a good idea and some bridge between standard and 40cm coil.
                            It will provide you faster search while even going 20% or something deeper.


                            For countries, antique finds are always interesting - they make them proud about history - which was not always peacefully.
                            With "Indiana Jones problems" I meant that other people are after the treasures and the persons who found or will find them!
                            I doubt that in your case will be much problems besides that you have to give away your treasures.
                            The benefit of course is that people might invite you for other interesting search-activities and you get respect from the society
                            because of course also the people who live there will be proud if they have some local attractions to show about their region.

                            btw. you have learned now personally:
                            Spent your money and don't leave it below some boulders!


                            After the DRS Ground Exper arrived it would be great if you show us some tests on youtube!

                            Are you plan to search with the small or the large coil and what was the main point for your
                            decision for buying exactly this and no other P.I. detector?



                            PS: by pure coincidence found 10min later: Nazi-Gold at Denmark!
                            map:
                            http://www.welt.de/geschichte/zweite...-Aufm-jpg.html
                            more:
                            http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...ld-train-found

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
                              Wow, very interesting and thx also for the drawings.

                              The old story - treasures hidden nearby or under significant landmarks.
                              Perhaps the stone has marked the road or the distance.

                              Under such circumstances I doubt you will find much more coins nearby
                              but your chances are great finding something other precious if already
                              a few 100m distant was found something.


                              > DRS Ground Exper

                              Well, you can try if some PI penetrates better that mineralized ground you have there
                              but the coil should be small enough for coins and beware: the disc may not work at all!

                              The Mars Discovery coil shurely is a good idea and some bridge between standard and 40cm coil.
                              It will provide you faster search while even going 20% or something deeper.


                              For countries, antique finds are always interesting - they make them proud about history - which was not always peacefully.
                              With "Indiana Jones problems" I meant that other people are after the treasures and the persons who found or will find them!
                              I doubt that in your case will be much problems besides that you have to give away your treasures.
                              The benefit of course is that people might invite you for other interesting search-activities and you get respect from the society
                              because of course also the people who live there will be proud if they have some local attractions to show about their region.

                              btw. you have learned now personally:
                              Spent your money and don't leave it below some boulders!


                              After the DRS Ground Exper arrived it would be great if you show us some tests on youtube!

                              Are you plan to search with the small or the large coil and what was the main point for your
                              decision for buying exactly this and no other P.I. detector?



                              PS: by pure coincidence found 10min later: Nazi-Gold at Denmark!
                              map:
                              http://www.welt.de/geschichte/zweite...-Aufm-jpg.html
                              more:
                              http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...ld-train-found
                              Yeah spot on Once more.. haven't told you, but some more finds came up, in the days after finish searching the coin area. See some of them (pictures)
                              Not much, but 2 x broches, and a little silver ring, with inscription. And some few others old finds.
                              I'm sure there is more to be found, just a matter of time og weather.
                              About the DRS.. Need to be tested first, before I Specialy can say where I can use it.. But I got some ideas (dreams allso).
                              It is ordred with the 9" and the 18" coil.. (Not the Big 1 meter)...

                              this nazi gold If it wasn't a Duck, is a story from Jylland, longgggg away from my area. Its not my type of detecting / treasurehunting. Some loves the daughter other the mother. Free World. I like the Challenge finding old arteffects and are proud If and when a find ends at the museum. Reward / gold and silver comes in second place.
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                                Those are really good finds, thx for the pix.

                                I'm guessing once there have lived already people directly at that area
                                or perhaps it was some place for celebrations so the chances are very
                                good to find alot more stuff everywhere around.


                                Well - the question will be if the DRS Ground Exper fits to your wishes and needs.

                                It will be a bit like using the XP Deus with a flat LCD-device mounted on the stem.
                                I hope it has also audio signals if a find gets detected.

                                Seen from the P.I. technology also the http://lorenz-z1.com/
                                and some of the Minelab detectors would fit into this range.


                                Yeah, the danish Nazi-Gold (if it's not just some old story) is located pretty far in the north.
                                btw. I've been already at Flensburg directly at the danish border, it's a nice town with
                                very friendly people and I'm shure you know it. Sometimes I may visit for a treasure-hunt
                                the famous island Sylt, which is a bit in the west from there, I've been there, too.
                                And if someone wanna finds other "treasures" from the WW2 - whole Europe is stuffed with it!


                                Let's hope that this 4000 Euro detector really makes a big enough difference -
                                concerning depth at high mineralized soil and that the disc. works well enough.
                                I'm shure we will receive reliable test-results or infos from you how good it goes.

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