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    Сергей Конструктор Альтаир-2Д

    "The fundamentals of the AFS amplitude-frequency sampler method."

    Introduction.

    The Altair-2D selective metal detector uses a different principle of operation from the methods used in fore
    ign and domestic - including homemade Russian, selective metal detectors. Therefore, I will describe in more detail both the manufacturing procedure of the Altair-2D, and the basics of the method used in it, as well as the operation of its main circuit nodes.

    Most modern selective metal detectors for searching for metal objects in the ground are mainly based on the inductive balance (IB) method. This method makes it possible to implement with high efficiency all the basic necessary requirements for the search parameters of a modern metal detector – high sensitivity (range of operation on metal objects), elimination of the influence of soil on the operability of the device and selectivity by type of metals. All other methods (pulse PI, Q meter, frequency BFO, Fm, OR), individually, are not able to ensure simultaneous compliance with all the above requirements.

    PI and Q do not have effective metal species selection, and frequency methods lose their effectiveness in soils with increased mineralization. The only drawback of the IB method from the point of view of self-manufacturing of metal detectors is the difficulty of manufacturing a high–quality and stable sensor at home. Unlike other methods, it is a composite structure of several inductive coils, requiring their high precision balancing and thermal stability. However, it is possible to implement a selective metal detector not only on the basis of the IB method. The symbiosis of two separate methods, Q and Fm, also makes it possible to obtain a device with sufficient sensitivity, the ability to eliminate the influence of soil and selectivity by type of metals.

    This uses a simple sensor consisting of a single inductor coil. It is this Q&Fm method (or otherwise AFS - Amplitude-Frequency Sampler) that is used in the Altair-2D metal detector.The essence of the Q-method is that when a metal object appears near the inductor of an LC generator, its quality factor changes and, accordingly, the amplitude on the circuit. These changes in the amplitude of the oscillator are further detected by the amplitude detector, filtered, amplified, and sampled by the metal detector circuit.

    Moreover, the closer the generator mode is set to the threshold of generation failure, the more sensitive the metal detector is. The features of the Q-method include the lack of selectivity by type of metals (for any metal, the amplitude of the oscillator decreases) and the reduced influence of soil on the operability of the method.The essence of the Fm method is that when a metal object appears near the inductor of an LC generator, its frequency also changes. These frequency variations of the oscillator can then be detected by a frequency detector, filtered, amplified, and sampled by a metal detector circuit. The features of the Fm method include the presence of selectivity by type of metals (mainly ferrous / non-ferrous) and a complete loss of performance on soils with increased mineralization. Both of these methods, Q and Fm, make it possible, with appropriate circuitry, to obtain high sensitivity comparable to that of most popular front-end IB metal detectors. That is, within 20-40 cm per single coin in the ground, depending on the diameter of the sensor and the specific model.However, the simple independent application of two separate methods Q and Fm (Fig.1.) as a selective metal detector for searching for metal objects in soils with increased mineralization is completely ineffective.​


    This is due to the increased influence of the soil on the Fm method. The signal from the soil with increased mineralization at the output of the Fm channel will be much higher than the signals from small or deep-lying metal objects. Therefore, weak signals from these objects will be completely masked by the signal from the ground (Fig. 2.).​

    In order for the Q plus Fm method to work effectively in soils with increased mineralization, both of these methods must be interrelated and help each other to eliminate their disadvantages. This is exactly what happens in Altair-2D: the Q-method significantly reduces the influence of soil in the Fm channel, and also allows you to regulate the nature of its selectivity by any types of metals. And the Fm method, in turn, eliminates the signal from the ground in the Q channel. The result is a selective (Q+Fm) device, comparable in search parameters (sensitivity, adjustable detuning from the ground and adjustable discrimination) with comercial classIB devices.​

    Current comparison of Altair-2D with popular models of comercial front-end IB metal detectors

    A detailed description of the technical and operational characteristics of the Altair-2D, video tests, operating instructions, etc. are available for public. As follows from the description and ground tests, the technical and operational characteristics of the Altair-2D practically do not differ from IB devices of a similar class. However, there are some differences due to the peculiarities of the methods used.

    If we consider Altair-2D specifically, rather than the potential capabilities of the Q+Fm method in general then we can highlight its advantages and disadvantages in comparison with popular IB metal detectors.:

    Advantages:

    1. Energy efficiency.
    The current consumption of the Altair-2D is about 6 milliamps, powered by two batteries with a total voltage of 18 volts. Two conventional "salt" batteries of the Crown type are enough for 40-50 hours of continuous operation. Alkaline batteries (Duracell, Energizer, etc.) increase the continuous operation time by another 2-3 times.

    2. Stable operation in a wide temperature range from -10 to +40 °C.

    3. An easy-to-manufacture and configure inductive sensor. Reduced requirements for coil winding and mechanical strength.

    4. Easy configuration of the electronic circuit (one tuning resistor and one selectable capacitor in the sensor and one tuning resistor in the processing unit).

    5. Independence of adjustment adjustments from the ground balance and discrimination.

    6. In the "All metals" and "Mixferrum" modes, the metal detector detects any metal object in the soil with high increased mineralization without loss of detection range. At the same time, in the "Mixferrum" mode, it is possible to evaluate the type of metal of the detected object.

    7. Increased boosted sensitivity to fine natural gold - nuggets and gold dust.


    Disadvantages:

    1. The adjustment of detuning from soil with increased mineralization is too "sharp" alias detuning is carried out in a very narrow range of the regulator scale and requires precise skilled installation.

    2. In practice, the inaccuracy of detuning from soil with increased mineralization is manifested in the appearance of false workings on the soil. It can be eliminated by installing an additional regulator for "smooth" detuning from the ground. - Manual detuning from the soil is carried out only from mineralized (Fe-) soils. There is no manual detuning from salty soils (in particular, some chernozems black soils). To introduce it, it will be necessary to supplement the Altair-2D with one op amp, two resistors and one switch which was supposed to introduce the "Fe-ground / Salty ground" switch mode).

    3. Another disadvantage
    of the Altair-2D AFS is a high operating frequency 32 kHz and need to place the Q-generator directly in the sensor.

    4. The influence of salty
    soil moisture and false erratic signals in salty sea water.​

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    1. The AFS method
    Unlike domestic and foreign selective metal detectors, which mainly use the inductive balance (IB) method, the Altair-2D uses the amplitude-frequency sampler detection (AFS) method for the selective search of metal objects. The amplitude sampler detects metal objects in the most mineralised soils, while the frequency sampler identifies the detected object.

    2. Detuning from the ground interference - Ground Balansing circuit
    This metal detector uses manual ground balancing based on the AFGB (amplitude-frequency ground balance) of the soil, an method which ensures minimal loss of detection depth of metal objects in soils with varying degrees of mineralization.

    3. Discrimination modes
    Altair-2D uses two discrimination modes - "Non-ferrous meta or Colouredl" and "Mixferrum" (All metals with iron discrimination). In the "Non-ferrous metal" mode, a single-tone audible alarm appears mainly on objects made of non-ferrous or coloured metals. In the "Mixferrum" mode, the detected object is identified by changing the tone of the alarm (high-low tone pitch). In the "Non-ferrous" mode, a single-tone audiо signal appears on non-ferrous coloured objects. In the "Mixferrum" mode, the identification of the detected object is made by changing the tone of the sound alarm circuit (high-low tone). In both modes, depending on the preset level of discrimination, you can cut-off not only small iron trash, but also iron of medium and large size, as well as very small objects of non-ferrous metal that are not of interest​

    4. Altair-2D model is from series of low-cost, high-quality metal detectors features minimal loss of detection depth for metal objects in soils with complex varying degrees of mineralization, increased sensitivity to small objects of gold, nuggts and gold dust and have very low power consumption and long prospecting time.

    5. The modes of operations - "All metals" with two modes of discrimination: "Non-ferrous metal" and "Mixferrum". Sound blanking alarm and manual adjustment of ground balance mineralization soil. There could be one or two-tone audio pitch discrimination tones. Also have manually adjustable discrimination threshold for hypersensitivity of small gold objects and nuggets. This metal detector is also high energy efficiency and use widespreaded radio components. It's not easy project but worth try and luck.
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    • #3
      Hi Pustarek!
      Have you already built the detector you mentioned?
      And if you have, have you tested it?​
      I'm interested if you detect any gold nuggets.
      Last edited by Ruben2000; 07-12-2025, 10:24 PM.

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          Author and inventor of MD Altair-2D​ is Синдбад or Sindbad. ЕЕ man like Carl-NC, who had own company for MD production same like Carl. So anybody could contact him personally at forum.cхeма.net.
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          PS: HI Ruben 2000, i am searching for gold and silver only with electronic lrls and MD was using only for pinpointing. If you really gonna try this project i can send you a lot of informations and help with MD Altair-2D. But only via your e-mail.​ I have posted this info because maybe some member here could try implement mix between PI & Q & Fm principles. three in one. This is the only reason - not to promote anybody or any MD. We all need something new in sence of current MD technology. The whole story.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pustareka View Post
            Author and inventor of MD Altair-2D​ is Синдбад or Sindbad. ЕЕ man like Carl-NC, who had own company for MD production same like Carl. So anybody could contact him personally at forum.cхeма.net.
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            https://forum.cxem.net/index.php?/profile/65756-%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B4

            PS: HI Ruben 2000, i am searching for gold and silver only with electronic lrls and MD was using only for pinpointing. If you really gonna try this project i can send you a lot of informations and help with MD Altair-2D. But only via your e-mail.​ I have posted this info because maybe some member here could try implement mix between PI & Q & Fm principles. three in one. This is the only reason - not to promote anybody or any MD. We all need something new in sence of current MD technology. The whole story.
            Hello, Pustarek!
            I just sent you a private message, and I sent you my email address there.
            Thank you so much for sharing your information. I appreciate it in advance. I'll also visit the author's page for more information.
            We'll be in touch!

            Ruben​

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              • #8
                And now we want to see video with tests of Altair-2D on real different ground conditions - not tests in the air! No gold in the air!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Detectorist#1 View Post
                  And now we want to see video with tests of Altair-2D on real different ground conditions - no tests in the air! No gold in the air!


                  Do it and test it - show us.

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                  • #10
                    My opinion is that this project is a toy without practical benefit. Also, the special schematic for stabilization of LC search unit is hidden under unknown patent!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Detectorist#1 View Post
                      My opinion is that this project is a toy without practical benefit. Also, the special schematic for stabilization of LC search unit is hidden under unknown patent!
                      I have posted this info because maybe some member here could try implement mix between PI & Q & Fm principles. three in one.



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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pustareka View Post
                        The Altair-2D selective metal detector uses a different principle of operation from the methods used in foreign and domestic - including homemade Russian, selective metal detectors.
                        Up until around 1980-81 Garrett made a "discriminating BFO" which sounds like the same method. It had a traditional BFO mixer for getting the frequency shift and also had a parallel circuit for getting the energy loading, or Q shift.

                        In the "All metals" and "Mixferrum" modes, the metal detector detects any metal object in the soil with high increased mineralization without loss of detection range.
                        All induction metal detectors lose depth in mineralized ground because the increased permeability bends the field lines so they don't penetrate as deeply. There is no way around this. Also, mineralized ground should affect both the frequency shift and the Q.

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                        • #13
                          I've moved this to a new thread.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
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                            Up until around 1980-81 Garrett made a "discriminating BFO" which sounds like the same method. It had a traditional BFO mixer for getting the frequency shift and also had a parallel circuit for getting the energy loading, or Q shift.

                            Well done Carl-NC


                            Can you upload a file of a similar diagram?

                            "discriminating BFO"

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                            • #15
                              GarrettMHBFO.pdf

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