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[aft_72005]

Hi Carl
For some problems I cannot connect to geotech (I don’t know),
But I am having success to day. Also see this thread, my very congratulations
For your new job, I hope you will have more success at White's, company and
Don’t forget geotech forum.
Best regards.

[Steve in MS]

Congrats Carl on your new job. Most of us would like to be involved in some aspect of making metal detectors. Will you have to move from Coast to Coast? No matter if you do, I am sure you will like it fine.
Hope for you and Whites the best.
Regards,
Steve(MS)

[mosha]

good luck

I am happy for you, good luck.

regards'
Mosha

[Carl-NC]

There is a huge difference in the market for an MXT and a deep seeking pulse detector. That's why you don't see any of the big boys putting those in their catalogs. I doubt very much that Whites, Garret, Minelab, Bounty Hunter, Fisher, JWFisher, ettc. will ever add one to their line. This may be a difficult part of the transition to Whites for you. They are interested in selling many thousands of each model, they aren't interested in a detector that might sell 50 to 100 per year and realistically that's all that can be expected at best out of a deep seeking pulse detector, they all carry 1 beach pulse detector and that's it. The contraints of a real business rather than a hobby may be disappointing for you for this.

I'm well-aware of the business constraints and doing market justifications for products. I've walked away from some really cool chip designs that I would have loved to do. Maybe a deep-seeker can be justified, maybe not. BTW, JWFishers' business model is primarily that of low-volume specialty products.

Also, you might be kidding yourself if you think you'll get to say a whole lot on anything about this hobby/technology on the forums although I suspect Whites is a little more lenient in this respect. Do you remember when Dave Johnson was out of work a few years back and appeared out of no where? He got into deep discussions about metal detectors for several months and really shared a lot of great information on the forums.

Dave was discussing some leading-edge ideas in an effort to market his talents. He was successful. I'm sure I'll be able to continue discussing the technology in general, but probably not in the depth and obviously not any leading edge ideas that White's would be interested in.

Who knows, like Dave I may decide on a quiet exit, and just hand the forums off to someone else. Don't know yet.

- Carl

[simonbaker]

I hope White's lets you keep running this forum, because it is one of the best I've ever seen.

I really doubt it

One of the unfortunate aspects of this job is that I have to keep my mouth shut about ongoing projects. However, an obvious assumption for anyone to make is that White's is working on new products.

As you say, one thing lacking in the current White's catalog is a deep-seeking PI, like the MDL 8500. I would personally be interested in filling this void but White's can't base products on my interests, they have to make business sense. But Itellyawhat, I'll put this on my to-do list to look at.

- Carl

There is a huge difference in the market for an MXT and a deep seeking pulse detector. That's why you don't see any of the big boys putting those in their catalogs. I doubt very much that Whites, Garret, Minelab, Bounty Hunter, Fisher, JWFisher, ettc. will ever add one to their line. This may be a difficult part of the transition to Whites for you. They are interested in selling many thousands of each model, they aren't interested in a detector that might sell 50 to 100 per year and realistically that's all that can be expected at best out of a deep seeking pulse detector, they all carry 1 beach pulse detector and that's it. The contraints of a real business rather than a hobby may be disappointing for you for this.

Also, you might be kidding yourself if you think you'll get to say a whole lot on anything about this hobby/technology on the forums although I suspect Whites is a little more lenient in this respect. Do you remember when Dave Johnson was out of work a few years back and appeared out of no where? He got into deep discussions about metal detectors for several months and really shared a lot of great information on the forums. Then he got a job, I believe with Bounty Hunter, and he said he could no longer share. He went away without a peep. I'm sure he is reading your website but keeps his mouth shut. Based on his desire to talk about this love of his, being in the business made a huge change for him and required him to keep to himself.
Best wishes to you...

[detectoman]

maybe pdk can soon desplace to white etc, haha
my congratulations carl

[Sven]

Rumor has it that White's will be coming out.......

with a "Carlsbad XRT" ............................with "Dyna-vision"..........that's all I know.

Good Luck at White's, had many of them detectors myself.

[bbsailor]

A Great Opportunity

Carl,

This will put you right in the thick of metal detector key issues related to: technology, marketing and performance. Good luck!

bbsailor

[wyndham]

Congratulations Carl glad to see this opportunity come your way. All here wish you and your family the best. With you joining the White's team is another reason for me to get a TDI. Please check and see if they take pottery in trade Wyndham