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  • WM6
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    Originally posted by target View Post
    yes they are on UK forums and have good credentials as confirmed by other board members who know them personally as genuine .
    Nice story.

    If you wish independent test of your Blisstool ltc64 then send me one for test.

    I can make really independent comparison test for you at my testing plant.

    In case that device is good for gold nugget hunting I will buy it, otherwise I'll send you back on my costs (in mint condition as it coming). And public tests of course.

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  • target
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    yes they are on UK forums and have good credentials as confirmed by other board members who know them personally as genuine .

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  • WM6
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    Originally posted by target View Post

    so far 3rd party independent testers say they agree with the videos ,no tricks just deep deep deep
    But you do not know who are those "3rd party independent testers"?

    Names please!

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  • target
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    so far 3rd party independent testers say they agree with the videos ,no tricks just deep deep deep

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  • WM6
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    Originally posted by Funfinder View Post

    Isn't it very suspicious that WM6 hates the Jeohunter and the
    Blisstool LTC64 and such a wonder that I have both machines...

    Hate???? Suspicious????? Maybe for you, Jeohunter fanatic and scam promoter.

    I have not emotional relationship to any of your devices, nor to you.

    I will be first buyer of any of your devices which can detect 1gr. gold nugget at 8" in soil. Wet dream for all those cannonball devices.

    The same, detecting silver sixpence at 13" (33cm) in average soil remain only a wet dream for Blisstool LTC64 .

    Repeat: correct tested in average soil (!), not in air.

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  • Qiaozhi
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    Originally posted by target View Post
    selection of demos here



    he buries them in a measured hole and the apparently detects them
    At least the video "BLISSTOOL LTC64X V2i Silver Threepence At 13 Inches Depth Demonstration REVISITED" is a step in the right direction. But he also needs to show the same test with an iron target buried at 13", and without changing the control settings of the detector.

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  • enrique81
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    Or it's just bad ground balanced?There's probaly a hole effect,like in this video.

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  • WM6
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    Originally posted by target View Post

    apparently detects them
    Sorry, wrong. Old scammer trick. He detect target hidden here:
    Attached Files

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  • target
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    selection of demos here



    he buries them in a measured hole and the apparently detects them

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  • Qiaozhi
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    Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
    Perhaps I will perform this test and show you the results.
    That would be good.

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  • Funfinder
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    concerning WM6:

    It's not any "dialectical provocation" what he writes, but pure crazyness!


    Isn't it very suspicious that WM6 hates the Jeohunter and the
    Blisstool LTC64 and such a wonder that I have both machines...

    This is no coincidence!

    He doesn't hate MDs because of their real capabilities (because he has absolutly no knowledge about the technical details, its all just by: "and I know 4 persons that say it's a crap or scam" lies or rumors) but if some special persons are using them!

    If I get the Whites M6, he will condemn his own beloved baby!

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  • Funfinder
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    @ Qiaozhi

    You're right, also for me the LTC64 seems to be an improved Fisher 126x circuit with the same "snap, crackle and pop". I even could use the Fishers coil with the Blisstool and vice verca, of course without correct discrimination with this configuration.

    And you can compare the detection signals with HAM (amateur) radio:
    A good trained ear ist able to filter out words from a very weak dB signal where somebody else only hears noise.

    That's why experienced users are able to detect much deeper stuff with such machines! I prefer the static noise over the crazy electrosmog beeps of as example the Garrett MDs because those signals are no longer "decipherable".


    > ferrous items will be accepted as the "depth" is increased

    That's right, but only after a special constellation of disc level
    and large iron objects as described by me already.


    The disc depth regulator is for improved surface iron junk deletion.
    The Fisher 126x's don't have this feature but the same problem that
    deeper and larger iron objects starts to get very worse to discriminate.

    Especially under real search conditions - if the disc is not at 10 but at 3-5.

    However the special surface trash elimination is an improvement,
    because alot deep under ground iron stuff is old and special.


    Btw. I don't know what all of this should have to do with the video.

    I haven't read that this video tries to claim something "special".

    onuba wrote about "iron rejection" and jamin360 posted the video.
    One comments there from blisstool was:

    "Hello, yes the iron will be "completely" rejected up to 7.9", past that depth the iron can be heard as broken/blunted/scratched signals. The non-ferrous objects come through crisp and clear with none of the mentioned characteristics. This video is showing that the small sixpence can give a clear signal through the disruptive signal from the iron nails. Hope that helps further videos are coming"

    Of course a tight mixed iron with noble metal find will give a better signal as the iron stuff on it's own.

    But it would be much more important to bury a single noble metal find at 10 inch and finally cover the ground with some nails.
    And now the iron rejection by "disc depth" should do a good job. But very probably the much stronger surface signals will fully mask the real target...

    Perhaps I will perform this test and show you the results.

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  • enrique81
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    Originally posted by MattR.UK View Post
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    Enrique, I am inclined to agree with your comment, especially as one of the nails appeared bent.

    At extreme depths, even ferrous targets are prone to mimic non-ferrous targets, and to add miss-shapeness to it only compounds matters......Matt.
    That was my point Matt.Many analog detectors can't disc. deep and rusty irons.

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  • Qiaozhi
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    Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
    "Discriminate Depth" has nothing to do with iron and coins mixed at the same ground level, but if those are at different depths.

    This is for persons who wanna discriminate very shallow or surface crap stuff but want to find deep iron stuff
    because it could be valuable etc.
    From your description I think "Discriminate Depth" is equivalent to "surface trash elimination" on other detectors.

    Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
    If nails and coins directly are mixed this will create completly uncalculatable results. If those are close to the surface a very small coil would be the best solution. If its buried alltogether very deep and close the conductivity will sum up and the "one, larger target" will appear as mixture alloy of this stuff. Because of this sum up you could recognise it as noble metal if the disc rejects stuff of the lower iron (and perhaps steel) range.
    This is my point concerning the video.

    Can you perform an air test using a medium sized iron target? Set the discrimination level so that the target is only just rejected at (say) 4". Then (keeping the target moving) gradually move it further away from the coil. If the Blisstool has the same flaw as the Fisher 126X models, then ferrous items will be accepted as the "depth" is increased, resulting in the digging of unwanted items at great depth.

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  • enrique81
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    Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
    OK, finito!

    Think what you want, this is so completly ridicoulous , a bunch of little kids - you won't get any more help or info at this thread from me! Bad luck...

    And you WM6 are such a pity for geotech, understanding nothing at all, nothing than a repeating bla bla bla bla bla. Go away and spread your nonsense at the LRL-Forum, where you belong.
    Funfinder we are talking about the test,not for the detector itself.Next time someone can show us 3 ft deep penny under the iron plate.So we have to believe him

    Btw looks like the "DADDY" has it's own grandpa





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