field test unit no 001 "model T"

[Aziz]

Next time, I'll definitely put a teapot into the orbit. This seems to be a much easier task. *LOL*

Comeon guys, please please, look at my results and verify the coil simulation results.

^sif

[Qiaozhi]

Ok Mr. Q, that is fair.

To be fair enough, I want someone proving me wrong. The latest results are based on true & hard facts, that no one can really ignore them.
Who dares to prove me wrong?
^sif

This is where the arguments arise, as no-one can actually prove you wrong. What you should be asking is: "Please look at my simulation results and see if you agree with my findings".
The challenge of: "Who dares to prove me wrong?", is just asking for trouble.

If I claim I've put a teapot in orbit around the Earth, and then challenge you to prove me wrong, you'll find this to be an impossible task. You simply cannot prove a negative, as when you come back and say that you've looked everywhere and couldn't find it, and therefore I must be lying, my reply wil simply be that you haven't been looking in the right place.

I know the above analogy is not exactly the same, but hopefully you get the point.

Your next step should be to perform some practical experiments and compare them to the simulation results. The real world has a nasty habit of screwing up the best of ideas.

[Aziz]

Ok Mr. Q, that is fair.

To be fair enough, I want someone proving me wrong. The latest results are based on true & hard facts, that no one can really ignore them.
Who dares to prove me wrong?
^sif

[Qiaozhi]

Mr. Q,

you are really getting unfair now. Stop the censoring.
And you are beginning to disappoint me.
^sif

Aziz - You need to understand something:

It's not the fact that you're pushing ideas which only exist in a simulation, with no practical experiments to back it up, as this scenario often exists on Geotech, and can lead to some interesting discussions. The problem is the profanity, name calling, and frequent references to the end of you-know-who, the start of a thermo-nuclear meltdown, etc, etc. You probably get away with this behaviour on Doug's Forum, but everyone here is generally fed up with it and we're getting a lot of compaints from other members. So ... if you want to be taken seriously, cut out the crap, and stick with the technical stuff.

[Aziz]

Aziz - Please stop wingeing that your posts have been removed. They were full of profanity and name calling, and contained no useful technical content.
If you make extraordinary claims, then be prepared to prove them in practice. Repeating the same thing ad infinitum will not make it come true. It's not up to everyone else to prove you wrong. You should know that you cannot prove a negative.
This is not up for discussion, so don't even try.
Next time the thread will be closed, and you'll be taking a sabbatical from Geotech.

Mr. Q,

you are really getting unfair now. Stop the censoring.
And you are beginning to disappoint me.
^sif

[Qiaozhi]

Aziz - Please stop wingeing that your posts have been removed. They were full of profanity and name calling, and contained no useful technical content.
If you make extraordinary claims, then be prepared to prove them in practice. Repeating the same thing ad infinitum will not make it come true. It's not up to everyone else to prove you wrong. You should know that you cannot prove a negative.
This is not up for discussion, so don't even try.
Next time the thread will be closed, and you'll be taking a sabbatical from Geotech.

[Qiaozhi]

We have got high performance PI coils, which go deeeeeeeeeeeeeeep now.

This is now the Last Chance Saloon.
Either post a video of the coil in operation, or don't bother mentioning it anymore.
It's time to show and tell.

We've received several compalints about two particular threads in the Geotech forums. and this is one of them. The other one has already been locked, and this one is very close to the same fate. Please keep the discussions technical without the bickering, sniping, and silly comments. We can only take so much vapour-ware and BS, and unfortunately this thread is full of it.

[PATCHES JUNIOR]

Nix Amen! *LOL*
We have got high performance PI coils, which go deeeeeeeeeeeeeeep now.
I am really looking forward to the next battle.

^sif,
the "World's Best Coil Meister" *LOL*

Give it up Aziz. Everyone, and I mean everyone is tired of your boasting. You say

"We have got high performance PI coils, which go deeeeeeeeeeeeeeep now"

". Well lets see one since you have them now. And I am sure they have been tested out in the field, or you could not make such a claim. So before your next "battle" lets see what you have produced. Which I am sure is not a thing that someone can go and use on their detector.

I agree with Qiaozhi that your Minelab bashing and bragging about a detector or coil which has never seen the light of day being better than what is available to the public is getting wore out.

[Aziz]

Nix Amen! *LOL*
We have got high performance PI coils, which go deeeeeeeeeeeeeeep now.
I am really looking forward to the next battle.

^sif,
the "World's Best Coil Meister" *LOL*

[PATCHES JUNIOR]

Actually, I couldn't have said it much better.

So ... once again ... at the risk of getting repetitive (though not as repetitive as this thread) please, please STOP the bickering. If you want to bite each other's heads off, go and do it on Doug's Forum.

Aziz and others - we all know you have some sort of gripe with Minelab. None of us actually care what the gripe is, or if you have some sort of delusion that you're going to make the company go bust by inventing the world's best whatever. If you have something technically interesting, then either show it here in public, or hide it away until you do have something. This silly argument has been going on for years now without any sign of an end in sight. If this continues, I will simply lock the thread. No excuses.

Whether you like it or not, Minelab do make a lot of really good detectors. If you feel otherwise, then don't buy one. It's as simple as that.

AMEN!!!

[Qiaozhi]

For all....Why does it ALWAYS have to be referred to a Minelab beating coil?

Aziz, I do respect you to some point from your past honest contributions (slowly fading though),
But dont you think recently you have totally gone off topic?

Everyone here is to learn, not to listen too how your life may be treating you.

Posting in the off topic section may be a better option for you as a suggestion if something not detector related is bothering you..

Not trying to have a go at you, just frustrated with the irrelevant comments which is making the Geotech experience very un-welcomed and un-pleasant.

Sid

Actually, I couldn't have said it much better.

So ... once again ... at the risk of getting repetitive (though not as repetitive as this thread) please, please STOP the bickering. If you want to bite each other's heads off, go and do it on Doug's Forum.

Aziz and others - we all know you have some sort of gripe with Minelab. None of us actually care what the gripe is, or if you have some sort of delusion that you're going to make the company go bust by inventing the world's best whatever. If you have something technically interesting, then either show it here in public, or hide it away until you do have something. This silly argument has been going on for years now without any sign of an end in sight. If this continues, I will simply lock the thread. No excuses.

Whether you like it or not, Minelab do make a lot of really good detectors. If you feel otherwise, then don't buy one. It's as simple as that.

[sido]

I will just say this once and only.....

How can anyone contribute to anything that may be remotely related to MINELAB on the forum.......directly or in-directly.

That is what keeps me and I assume others from expressing their opinions.

It is no fun, unless it has been authorised by personnel to do so.

Sid

[sido]

Ok guys,

I'm uploading the calculated coil simulation results here too. If you need more info, go to Doug's forum.
Forum-trolls are strictly not allowed to download it.
[ATTACH]29748[/ATTACH]
Cheers,
^sif

Maybe we should all switch to the other forum mate??

What the Fan belt is going on here???

Sid

[Aziz]

Coil Comparison Results..

Ok guys,

I'm uploading the calculated coil simulation results here too. If you need more info, go to Doug's forum.
Forum-trolls are strictly not allowed to download it.
CoilComp7(CoilCMP4)-05.zip
Cheers,
^sif

[sido]

Hey Sid,

no worries mate. It's only a nice teasing game of the forum-trolls. They just motivate us. As always.

BTW, if you want to see the outcome of the hot discussion, then go to the Doug's site.
All the calculated coil results were published there.
The outcome is really insane and will lead to new outperforming PI coils.
Cheers,
^sif

I have no problems with relevant documented data..

The problem is I have never been accepted to be able to view it...

I have been accused of being a internet troll....I can tell you I am far from it.

Sid