field test unit no 001 "model T"

[Aziz]

Hi out there,

I have a thermo-nuclear ML beater, which is based on “adapted and arranged” technology.
I'm much more experience with “adapted and arranged” method than Candy.
Now I'm going to “adapt and arrange” the thermo-nuclear melt-down red button.
^sif

[robby_h]

Rh you really should concentrate on learning to read English with emphasis on conjunctions and pronouns.

"Full depth detection AND discrimination". .....plonker.

Full depth discrimination at full detection depth depends on what we class as a signal. It could be a definite strong "dig me" signal or just a murmur caused by conductive or/and non-conductive minerals or a charcoal deposit etc in which case it is impossible to obtain anything resembling full depth disc for an object at depth because the ground above the mineral or target determines the result. In another case a detector might analyse the signal and beep when it satisfies a set of conditions in which case full depth disc is often poor compared to the normal all metal detection mode and only suitable for coins etc. Full depth disc in mineralised ground using any of the known methods is impossible.

The patent Doug refers to does state how the "samples" are processed and it is also obvious that demodulation occurs in the normal way so "adapted and arranged" is sufficient in this case. If "arranged" upsets Doug then perhaps he could ignore it and pretend it just says "adapted"?

[Aziz]

Hey Robby_H,

did you solve the very trivial riddle?
Notice, that the riddle is ultra-trivial than a PI.

^sif

[Aziz]

Hey Robby_H,

you're going to lose your credibility if you can't solve the ultra-trivial riddel.
How should someone else take you serious if you give your 2 boobs worth on other peoples idea?
I don't think, that you have enough MQ. BTW, same applies to Mr. Candy! *LOL*
"Adapting and arranging"(tm) is soooooooooooooo trivial(tm).

BTW, "trivial" is my one of the beloved words I have heard from my math teacher, when I was a student!
Trivial, trivial, trivial, .. trivial, trivial persuade (oops, I like the game too) *LOL*
^sif

[moodz]

Full depth discrimination at full detection depth depends on what we class as a signal. It could be a definite strong "dig me" signal or just a murmur caused by conductive or/and non-conductive minerals or a charcoal deposit etc in which case it is impossible to obtain anything resembling full depth disc for an object at depth because the ground above the mineral or target determines the result. In another case a detector might analyse the signal and beep when it satisfies a set of conditions in which case full depth disc is often poor compared to the normal all metal detection mode and only suitable for coins etc.

The patent Doug refers to does state how the "samples" are processed and it is also obvious that demodulation occurs in the normal way so "adapted and arranged" is sufficient in this case. If "arranged" upsets Doug then perhaps he could ignore it and pretend it just says "adapted"?

Full depth disc in mineralised ground using any of the known methods is impossible.

I am doing discrimination using a monocoil and not one of the known methods. ( eg dd coil ... Though my det also works fine with dd ). The monocoil with discrim gives best depth. There are three "channels" ... Target sense ... Polarity discrim and sweep discrim ... Processing all three provides separation of ferrous / non ferrous / conductive clays & charcoal . There is a fourth " channel" which deals with ground.

[hdphilip]

sounds like a job for the pic32MZ....

[robby_h]

Full depth disc in mineralised ground using any of the known methods is impossible.

I am doing discrimination using a monocoil and not one of the known methods. ( eg dd coil ... Though my det also works fine with dd ). The monocoil with discrim gives best depth. There are three "channels" ... Target sense ... Polarity discrim and sweep discrim ... Processing all three provides separation of ferrous / non ferrous / conductive clays & charcoal . There is a fourth " channel" which deals with ground.

So now we have "sweep discrim"????????

"I am doing discrimination using a monocoil and not one of the known methods".

That's the problem Moodz, your cro pics and everything you say suggests that you are using well known methods that have been discarded by others. Most detector designers refer to the X and R components or X and viscosity when discussing the ground but anyone following your posts would assume you are fixated on X and are either unaware of viscosity or you think they are the same. Your description of your channels tends to confirm this.

The ideas you have proposed in this thread are already well known and have obvious flaws so there is no point in discussing it further until you prove the thing actually works and isn't just another way to skin the same old cat.

BTW, mono coil discrimination isn't new!

[Doug2]

So now we have "sweep discrim"????????

"I am doing discrimination using a monocoil and not one of the known methods".

That's the problem Moodz, your cro pics and everything you say suggests that you are using well known methods that have been discarded by others. Most detector designers refer to the X and R components or X and viscosity when discussing the ground but anyone following your posts would assume you are fixated on X and are either unaware of viscosity or you think they are the same. Your description of your channels tends to confirm this.

The ideas you have proposed in this thread are already well known and have obvious flaws so there is no point in discussing it further until you prove the thing actually works and isn't just another way to skin the same old cat.

Do you have the complete schematics and all the firmware of the Moodz detector to draw these conclusions?

[Paul99]

Do you have the complete schematics and all the firmware of the Moodz detector to draw these conclusions?

Give it a rest Doug. Your last Great White Hope has already been sat on his behind because of your help.

[moodz]

You are so fixated on x and r and this is what blinds you. ( similar to your theories on diodes and square waves lol ) ..... Your a guy who makes hot air balloons telling the guy with the jet engine that it won't work.

[Paul99]

You are so fixated on x and r and this is what blinds you. ( similar to your theories on diodes and square waves lol ) ..... Your a guy who makes hot air balloons telling the guy with the jet engine that it won't work.

That is amusing coming from a bloke who has admitted on AEGPoof that you might get something actually working sometime in the future.

[robby_h]

You are so fixated on x and r and this is what blinds you. ( similar to your theories on diodes and square waves lol ) ..... Your a guy who makes hot air balloons telling the guy with the jet engine that it won't work.

The average reader would expect you to at least reply with something that indicates why you do or don't have to address X and viscosity but it seems you think that claiming to be a genius will suffice. Shouldn't that claim be followed with the usual "sigh"?

"Your a guy who makes hot air balloons telling the guy with the jet engine that it won't work".

I think by now most people would know that the above is the response you give when you have no response.

[Doug2]

The average reader would expect you to at least reply with something that indicates why you do or don't have to address X and viscosity but it seems you think that claiming to be a genius will suffice. Shouldn't that claim be followed with the usual "sigh"?

"Your a guy who makes hot air balloons telling the guy with the jet engine that it won't work".

I think by now most people would know that the above is the response you give when you have no response.

How can you draw valid conclusions from a few a pixels of a big picture?
Someone needs to change their brand of parrot seed!

[Paul99]

How can you draw valid conclusions from a few a pixels of a big picture?
Someone needs to change their brand of parrot seed!

I see the usual derogatory vitriol from you Doug. It's a pity you cannot lift your game.

[Carl-NC]

Again??? Seriously?

Paul, Robby: do you guys really feel threatened by Moodz & Aziz?
Doug, Moodz: do you guys feel obligated to respond to every single comment Paul & Robby make?

C'mon guys, time to grow up. We're not in the grade school any more.

Hey Doug, you love this stuff... open up your forum, wide open, nothing barred, no one excluded, no one banned for any reason. Traffic will go through the roof, guaranteed.