There is only one detector better than Deus - it is Deus with larger coil!

[ivconic]

here is a bit http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/blog...tion-and-news/
But not the "big catch".

Thanks!
Pinpointer option is very interesting!
Also i am curious about new coils.
But as i recall; they announced elliptical coil much earlier and now is delayed to "few months"...
Ok... we will have to wait more...

[mschmahl]

here is a bit http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/blog...tion-and-news/
But not the "big catch".

[ivconic]

What's going on with XP? Anybody knows?
What's going on with Deus update?
For long period ain't no news from them?

[ivconic]

Which programs for which situation you use...do you have your own settings ...
New update was for last summer ...and now still nothing one year liter...

I don't use fixed programs with fixed parameters. I did that in the past as new user.
I have 2-3 newly saved programs on which i additionally readjust some parameters during the searching.
My basic presets are program No.2 and program No.3.
Those two i copied on several locations above program place No.10 and than readjusted parameters.
For example; place No.12 is copied program No.2 , place No.13 is copied program No.3 etc...
Than those new programs also copied further with few changes.
For example; No.12 is working at 18Khz, but its copy on No.16 is working at 12Khz... etc.
And i have also "twin" programs with differences only on Silencer parameter.
For cleaner soils i use Silencer at -1 , while on soils where i start to dig lot of bottle caps; i use Silencer adjusted to 3 and sometimes even 4.
All depends on exact present situation on the field.
It would be very contra-productive to fix one program with certain parameters and stick to it all the time, on all terrains and soils.
It is "live" thing, it needs operators engagement and "presence" all the time; in case one want to become advanced user and to have good results.
...
Yet there are different kind of users too; the "idiot" users who are enjoying walking around with fixed parameters, lazy enough, relying mostly on lucky random shallow targets.
Such kind of users are the worst ones. Not because they don't find nothing (their problem, who cares) but because later they usually spread a lot of nonsenses and false facts on public forums.
Not knowing working principles of the detector, not paying attention on slightest details in adjusting parameters; usually leads to a lot of disappointments, false experiences and lot of frustration.
Not only that; but also like i said: such people are having "viral" need to spread their disappointments in public, by spreading very distorted "truth" about metal detecting and metal detector models.
It is better not to use detector at all; than to use it wrong way.

[tragac]

Which programs for which situation you use...do you have your own settings ...
New update was for last summer ...and now still nothing one year liter...

[ivconic]

I know two experienced detectorists who have had great success with cheap Garrett including finding a roman hoard and moved to the Deus. One immediately had some success and loved it for the start. The other didn't find much to start with and hated it.


Shows how a bit of success changes are perception of a detector and two different people have different opinions of the same machine

True. It is a matter of habits and matter of adaptation. Some people adapt easier on different machine, some don't.
I would tell an example, Bulgarian Golden Mask detector series... actually a Wave, actually a Pirate, actually a Blisstool...
In essence is the Magnum from Andy Flind, modified and extended with another channel, two tones etc...
But in essence it is still a Magnum. Pretty thin discrimination.
Major public opinion here among detectorists is that those are splendid "collectors", especially Golden Mask series (from model 1, 1+ ... to model 4; all the same machines, identical).
But how come that those are so good? Because of the thin discrimination; you dig a hell lot more with it! So once you discover something precious; your perception changes, you become a victim from trick of own mind.
You easily forget previous 100 bad digs and you focus only on last 101st precious one!
...
Deus's story is quite different. It is "sour grapes" for many people. But once you have it and once you master it; you'll realize how much advantages it offers.

[Koala]

I know two experienced detectorists who have had great success with cheap Garrett including finding a roman hoard and moved to the Deus. One immediately had some success and loved it for the start. The other didn't find much to start with and hated it.


Shows how a bit of success changes are perception of a detector and two different people have different opinions of the same machine

[ivconic]

Is this company so small that it has no employees to answer a simple e-mail or
do you have to google-translate it to french first ???



XP Metal Detectors

8 Rue du développement
Zi de Vic
31320 Castanet-Tolosan
France

Phone : +33 (0)5 34 43 10 52
Fax : +33 (0)5 34 43 10 53
Email : [email protected]




However - as shown at that link now you have even the MEGA large coil if it's available at all !

Fire or not - there exists insurances and creating a software update is a different topic.
What is this for a firm if its unable to tell the buyers of their detectors what's going on ?!
Overpriced detectors with idiotically not changeable accus, crazy software-bugs and
total arrogant or ignorant people if it comes to customer-service!

I'm happy that I haven't bought one of their detectors!

No need to be so upset towards the XP producer.
They do manufacture splendid machines.
If you don't like them; than don't buy their products, simple as that.
...
"...not changeable accus..." !!??
Seems you deliberately are repeating this false statement like mantra, despite the fact that i explained on these forums several times; XP Deus batteries are pretty EASY REPLACEABLE!
No sweat at all.
But i guess you are standing on that old saying; "many times repeated lie; becomes truth".
...
Don't be upset.
Pick the detector you like and be happy with it.
The end of a story.
Cheers!

[Funfinder]

Is this company so small that it has no employees to answer a simple e-mail or
do you have to google-translate it to french first ???



XP Metal Detectors

8 Rue du développement
Zi de Vic
31320 Castanet-Tolosan
France

Phone : +33 (0)5 34 43 10 52
Fax : +33 (0)5 34 43 10 53
Email : [email protected]




However - as shown at that link now you have even the MEGA large coil if it's available at all !

Fire or not - there exists insurances and creating a software update is a different topic.
What is this for a firm if its unable to tell the buyers of their detectors what's going on ?!
Overpriced detectors with idiotically not changeable accus, crazy software-bugs and
total arrogant or ignorant people if it comes to customer-service!

I'm happy that I haven't bought one of their detectors!

[ivconic]

btw...
this was the latest news that i saw, long time ago:

http://md-hunter.com/xp-deus-deep-nozzle-and-xp-pinpointer-new-2016/

[ivconic]

Still no news from XP???
We all are restless to see new firmware update for XP Deus.
Yet... still silence from them?
...
I am really in doubts about whether or not to post this in public... but certain amount of time has passed since i heard the rumor, so i reckon; now after several months: this can not nor should not make troubles to anybody.
So... what i heard is that there was a fire in XP factory and 10 000 units were destroyed on the place!!!
Was it true or not; i can't say.
I just heard that from a source.
And i suppose that was the reason for such long delay.
It happened several months ago. I didn't told this to anybody since now.
Are there any additional infos?
...
I am still keeping and using my XP Deus. It is in perfect shape.
Except from the charging clippers which i changed few times so far.
Those are easy breakable.
Everything else on it is flawless.
I am still standing behind the title of this topic, 100%.
Cheers!

[ivconic]

As long as you and the XP company still exists everything
will be fine for the Deus users!

Really, you do a great job here and I'm glad if
the original accus lasts more than 3-4 years.
Perhaps 2-3 years more. Interesting pix.


But the best solution would be Li-Po cells in
all kind of sizes which can be inserted into
devices like those for ultra-bright LED-lamps.

Very simple, no soldering and as if these would be normal batteries.

Deus coil is having pretty limited space for larger batteries.
Yet i founded two LiPo battery models designed and sold for drones to fit perfectly into Deus coil.
This is the "problem" for each 4 to 5 years to solve... not a big deal.
...
Battery is not soldered inside, it has standard plastic connector.
All you have to do is to open small compartment and replace battery.
Later use silicone to glue cover and that's about all.
Than after 4 to 5 years do that again...

[Funfinder]

As long as you and the XP company still exists everything
will be fine for the Deus users!

Really, you do a great job here and I'm glad if
the original accus lasts more than 3-4 years.
Perhaps 2-3 years more. Interesting pix.


But the best solution would be Li-Po cells in
all kind of sizes which can be inserted into
devices like those for ultra-bright LED-lamps.

Very simple, no soldering and as if these would be normal batteries.

[ivconic]

[ivconic]

The question meanwhile after 4 years is:

How powerful still is the LiPo accu of the smaller or larger coil
and or have you been able (for others it might be a real problem) to replace it?

My personal opinion: the current (and therefore search-time) meanwhile has been reduced by 40-50%
because this thing is self-depleting all the time.

And how is it about the detectors electronic unit? Afaik it also contains some hard exchangeable accu.

What do we learn from this:
Never buy a detector with very hard to get and replaceable LiPo-batteries because
after some years it could become completely useless!

Best detector? Perhaps for concealed inbuilt battery replacing professionals only.

Seems you are not following some already posted and explained things here on these forums... or you keep forgetting all the time.
My batteries, at my two coils; are still in perfect shape, after 4 years and so.
But also i have been replaced batteries for other people at their coils, for several times so far.
Nothing is easier. Very simple and fast operation.
Yet one small "problem" still exist; obtaining original battery replacement set is sometimes a bit time consuming.
It takes several days to obtain set from supplier.
That's why i searched for faster solution, some batteries for lately popular quadcopters&drones are 100% suitable, and cheaper from originals.
So; there is no actually a problem with Deus batteries at all.