There is only one detector better than Deus - it is Deus with larger coil!

[Funfinder]

The question meanwhile after 4 years is:

How powerful still is the LiPo accu of the smaller or larger coil
and or have you been able (for others it might be a real problem) to replace it?

My personal opinion: the current (and therefore search-time) meanwhile has been reduced by 40-50%
because this thing is self-depleting all the time.

And how is it about the detectors electronic unit? Afaik it also contains some hard exchangeable accu.

What do we learn from this:
Never buy a detector with very hard to get and replaceable LiPo-batteries because
after some years it could become completely useless!

Best detector? Perhaps for concealed inbuilt battery replacing professionals only.

[ivconic]

When understood in plastic expert the plastic mass claims that that Xp detectors used Chinese !
I fall into reflection to a Chinese company true detectors according to the requirements
from France ?!Therefore, the cable shoddy all copy the Chinese other than plastic missing component !

I think i understand your point; yes some of the parts for some XP models are made from awfully low quality materials.
For example; coil cables for newer Gold Max Power, Gmaxx II and ADX are really bad!
After the first thrill and enthusiasm upon XP appearance, now after several years; i could have few very serious remarks on their account.
Mentioned cables do appears as very high quality on first and skim look.
But as local amateur servicer (in time people used to send me detectors on services) in last few years i collected lot of experiences and now i can freely say: those cables sucks!
Very often case is situation when cable breaks somewhere close to coil or close to connector (most bending areas) and that detectors behave erratic or are completely out of function.
It is very difficult to service those, there is no adequate cable in local shops and also no such connectors too.
Connector at those coils is ugly story on it's own!
It is molded and not possible to open it. Once it was broken; it can only be tossed in garbage.
In such cases customer must look for some solution.
Only one solution so far is to contact local supplier (if any in the area) and order new "set", consisting of new cable with new connector (also molded on it) with few additional plastic parts for servicing.
Original old cable must be cut off as close as possible to coil, wires soldered properly and all that covered with plastic cap and filled with epoxy.
It is expensive, time demanding and nerving! It takes long time to obtain such set.
And there is no way to find another at least decent solution.
Only way i can think on is to find any similar proper cable and use standard 5-pins connectors (as on Minelabs, Fishers...).
But than also connector on enclosure must be changed too. And logically; user can not use other coils without changing connectors on them too!
Lot of unnecessarily complications! Why? Was it so hard to use standard connectors at the beginning?
Most of XP coils are having only 2 coaxials, meaning 4 "wires"... any 4-pins or 5-pins connector will perfectly do the job.
Was it hard to use high quality silicone coated cable? Same as on Tesoro models.
Tesoro cables are perfect, eternal, impossible to break! No wonder why they are giving lifetime warranty.
Next huge remark is on very funny and stupid way of mounting enclosure to stem. Absolutely unnecessarily complicated! And very weak "point" in whole design.
And i can name maybe few more minor remarks too.
XP Deus is quite different story.
No problems with cables and connectors, simply because there are no cables and connectors. Very "smooth" and good move! Perfect!
So far and still Deus is probably the very best "buy" on market.
I am having it for 4 years and it is still in perfect shape.
No remarks on it.

[gotliebe]

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[Orbit]

When understood in plastic expert the plastic mass claims that that Xp detectors used Chinese !
I fall into reflection to a Chinese company true detectors according to the requirements
from France ?!Therefore, the cable shoddy all copy the Chinese other than plastic missing component !

[ivconic]

still nothing about V4 it was for lasr summer now it is announced for late this summer and can be for next .....

Obviously something went wrong with it.

[tragac]

still nothing about V4 it was for lasr summer now it is announced for late this summer and can be for next .....

[ivconic]

In the mist...

[ivconic]

With V4 on some forums some people have mentioned that also would be new color display on remote controller.....any news about this

about changing battery on coil , what do you think about this kit --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk5bPUp8r_s

any predictions about new MF coil , any advantage vs existing .........

Yes that's the regular XP kit. I am using only such kind for replacing batteries.
It can be obtained at local XP distributor.

"... any predictions about new MF coil , any advantage vs existing ..."

No, i can't tell nothing yet, don't know details.

[tragac]

With V4 on some forums some people have mentioned that also would be new color display on remote controller.....any news about this

about changing battery on coil , what do you think about this kit --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk5bPUp8r_s

any predictions about new MF coil , any advantage vs existing .........

[ivconic]

[ivconic]

http://md-hunter.com/fisher-is-makin...ctor-new-2016/

As i said; so far those are just plain rumors.
Posted "photo" is Photoshop made sketch.
Until we see material device in action...

[tragac]

http://md-hunter.com/fisher-is-making-a-clever-metal-detector-new-2016/

[ivconic]

http://www.xp-detectors.co.uk/xp-met...te-paris-show/
Innovation from XP

I was hoping to see V4 sooner.
2box is not in my focus of interest.
I am pretty disappointed earlier with TM808, Gemini3 and Garret GTI2500 2box , so i don't expect miracles from this one too.
Though... why not give it a try, will see.

[mungos]

http://www.xp-detectors.co.uk/xp-metal-detectors-dominate-paris-show/

Innovation from XP

[ivconic]

Honestly speaking; "modern" Fisher models are all out of any pro league.
Those all are weekend toys, to be used once or twice in the month.
Main reason is; low quality made, bad and weak materials, wrong decisions.
Time to accept that rude truth and move forward.
Time to turn on wireless.
Also time to give some people there HUGE kick out in their arse!
Especially to ones who are deciding on outlook, design, functionality.
But EE's who are designing electronic there; should stay, those guys are doing proper job.
My dream machine would be mcu based 1265 with wireless coil.
Until than Deus is still my favorite of all times.