There is only one detector better than Deus - it is Deus with larger coil!

[ivconic]

i trust deus. very good performance and if is space for free improvement, why not. v3.2 is impressive. only downside is that is fooled by deep rusty iron and big iron (if you use deep settings)

Every other brands and models are suffering from the same problem too.
At least from those i saw so far.
Except maybe Fisher CZ3D which was the winner in such situations in most of the tests i have seen and done.
Yet i picked Deus and not CZ because Deus is lightweight, wireless and more comfortable in manipulation.
But CZ is superior over Deus on recognizing deep irons. It's a fact.

[ivconic]

You was very very excited about Deus....and count for best or one of best MD

I am still very excited about Deus. It is still the very best (overall, generally) metal detector i ever had. Nothing changed.
It's only the XP company attitude that changed.
That's why i rise revolt and will switch to another brand and model.
Because it is all the same to me; all the sites are so exhausted by now that it does not makes any difference which machine you will use there.
Anyone will do. With anyone the results will be pretty much the same; poor.
So this is not "commercial" thing anymore; this became true hobby in these areas.
And when you take it as hobby; you don't really mind the equipment that much.
More important is hanging out with people, having good time, few beers and bbq in wild nature.
Absolutely the same chances are now with XP Deus and Fisher F2 to make fortune on local sites here in my area.
So there is no sane reason to invest more in expensive toys. Any cheap one will do the same.
Now is maybe a good moment to return to diys and good old times...

[ionut_mtb]

i trust deus. very good performance and if is space for free improvement, why not. v3.2 is impressive. only downside is that is fooled by deep rusty iron and big iron (if you use deep settings)

[tragac]

You was very very excited about Deus....and count for best or one of best MD

[ivconic]

Now.. there is very important issue in this story on XP.
I will try to explain.
If you search the net and especially Youtube; you'll find numerous articles and video demonstrations of V4 update.
Some of those recorded and uploaded by "official" XP collaborators (dealers, sellers etc...), but also some of those recorded and uploaded by unknown people.
Meaning what?
Meaning that there are "less important" and "more important" customers in the eyes of XP manufacturer.
Obvious.
So there are "third party" and "premium" customers and areas, right?
(Which would be pretty cretins attitude since such small market as Serbia has sold much more units than some 20 times larger markets in EU)
It is not good and it is not something that will bring them any sympathy from the majority, such attitude.
This brings up the revolt.
That's why i said it is probably the time to move on and switch to more serious brand.
As for me, i am thinking to return to my "roots" and my beginnings; Fisher and White's.
I will look forward to see any eventual novelties from them.
I will not spend my money on XP no more, that's for sure. It is steel strong decision.
XP Deus will stay on a wall as "souvenir" to remind on fact that there was one nice attempt once in a past...


P.S.
I don't see bright future for such philosophy, considering the changes announced by Trump, referring to probably most potent market in a world, the USA market. Prices will have to go up. Import will not be that easy. Taxes will be hot.
Next aspect is war with ML. ML is there, strong and aggressive. War is going on.
So... such spitting on "third party" markets will return to them as boomerang soon.

[ivconic]

"...Target and ground data can now be sent via link
to a smartphone. The new application will soon
be available for the Deus, features include : Mapping
of detected signals, view / save your search
tracks, log finds plus much more, all accessed
from and your smartphone (soon available on the
web)..."

Familiar to anyone?

[ivconic]

I wonder if we'll live long enough to see V4 update ever?
It's only year delay... maybe year and a half. WTF!

http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/blog-detection/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/02/DEUS_update_V4_UK.pdf

Must admit that am pretty much tired from various similar announcements...
What do i know? Maybe is time to move on and switch to different (more serious) brand and model.
So far it was good ride, Deus was quite alright.
But maybe is time to move on.

[keith777]

thanks very much for the advice. it is very much appreciated........

[ivconic]

thanks ivconic for the info.
when i have been using the Deus out in the field. i have been using it with the Tx power set on 3 and the Sens on 97
this has been giving me about 7 hours of detecting time before the coil goes flat.
i was told by the person i got the coil from, that the coil was 3 year old but had not been used much in that time. do you think 7 hours is still a good length of time. i have no idea on average what length of time a brand-new coil/battery would last using the same setting.

thanks again in advance.

7 hours in continuity is still quite enough for the very good day outdoor.
Yet it is indicating that coil and battery are not quite brand new.
It's not relevant if coil is not been used for long time as it is pretty much relevant if battery in coil is charged regularly in whole the period.
You can find very useful details on the Internet in articles on Lipo battery behavior, use and maintenance.
It is important to put coil/remote/headphone regularly on charger and keep the Lipo in good shape.
But i think there is still nothing to worry about in case of your coil.
Keep tracking the behavior and when it starts to shorten the charge down to 3-4 hours; it would be the time to replace the battery.

[keith777]

Consumption depends on adjustments.
That's why is hard to tell exactly.
For example; TX power can be adjusted from "1" to "3".
Also adjustment on "Sense" can affect consumption too; simply because when it is adjusted too high; it is producing constant mum chatters in speaker.
Speaker response affects power drain at audio output. And so on... and so on.
Also, consumption is different if you use headphones instead remote unit. Or using both but listening audio only on one... or both.
There are numerous combinations of the way how you can use XP Deus and also how you can adjust it.
That's from where it comes to different consumption charts.

thanks ivconic for the info.
when i have been using the Deus out in the field. i have been using it with the Tx power set on 3 and the Sens on 97
this has been giving me about 7 hours of detecting time before the coil goes flat.
i was told by the person i got the coil from, that the coil was 3 year old but had not been used much in that time. do you think 7 hours is still a good length of time. i have no idea on average what length of time a brand-new coil/battery would last using the same setting.

thanks again in advance.

[ivconic]

UNTIL ... !!!

[ivconic]

Seems all made in the same place by same manufacturer!
OUCH!



It's the Herbert von Karajan playing the "Drina March" again...

[ivconic]

[ivconic]

[ivconic]

Hi ivconic

i known this is a old post, but you have 2 different charts here showing for the length of time that the Deus battery lasts on the coil, hand control etc. can you tell me please which chart are you meant to go of as you don't say why there is two different charts put up in a row.
why i ask is i am trying to work out how well the battery is doing in my second-hand 13"x11" coil that i resonantly bought.
thanks in advance.

Consumption depends on adjustments.
That's why is hard to tell exactly.
For example; TX power can be adjusted from "1" to "3".
Also adjustment on "Sense" can affect consumption too; simply because when it is adjusted too high; it is producing constant mum chatters in speaker.
Speaker response affects power drain at audio output. And so on... and so on.
Also, consumption is different if you use headphones instead remote unit. Or using both but listening audio only on one... or both.
There are numerous combinations of the way how you can use XP Deus and also how you can adjust it.
That's from where it comes to different consumption charts.