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  • ...except for the 20 db of amplitude modulation clearly visible on the fundamental.

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    • So what is the actual peak-to-peak voltage across the TX coil?

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      • Originally posted by Olly View Post
        So what is the actual peak-to-peak voltage across the TX coil?
        TX coil voltage measured on the oscilloscope: aprox. 130 V peak-to-peak.
        Well, I can actually go up to 180 V as I haven't fully set to maximum. My reference TX-voltage will be clipped otherwise. I have to change my capacitive voltage divider.

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        • Originally posted by moodz View Post
          ...except for the 20 db of amplitude modulation clearly visible on the fundamental.
          Hi Paul,

          I don't understand, to which post you are referring to.
          If you refer to the TX-reference voltage in the lastest post, no this is coming from digital aliasing. The internal wave-form I do send to the sound card looks like the same on my display. On the oscilloscope, the TX wave-form is a pure sine of course.

          Below is the interal TX wave-form:
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          • Hi all,

            what should I say?
            Is it better to lose one channel on the TX side (2-channel = stereo output) and get only half power to the TX coil and beeing able on the other side to null out the RX coil perfectly (perfect induction balance) and push up the pre-amp gain?

            Now the good news:
            I have injected through a series resistor (10 kOhm) from the second output channel an IB nulling correction signal directly to the left input channel (RX-signal). I have adjusted the amplitude and phase and have achieved the perfect IB. I mean really perfect as it can be done up to the noise floor level.
            Instead of having mV residual RX IB mismatch voltage, I'm in the µV region.

            This can be easily done for dual frequency too. The active IB nulling gets maybe complex for chirp TX signals. I haven't tried it out yet.
            Aziz

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            • Hi all,

              I'm going to implement auto-perfect-IB-null function sometime. Yes, it is even possible to cancel out residual IB-RX-signal for complex wave-forms like the chirp-signal or multi-frequency signals. This is, what never has been done before.

              It makes great sense to do this.
              1. Low TX power saves battery consumption. We don't need much TX power.

              2. Cranking up pre-amp gain to compensate TX power reduction. As much as needed. Not more. Pre-amp does not consume much power. But the TX driver.

              3. Easy IB-coil making.


              Yeah!, the ultimate VLF/LF detector is coming soon.

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              • Hi all,

                I have connected a pre-amp of gain 100 to the RX-signal path. Yep, pre-amp and almost perfect IB nulling gives the ultimate kick to the detector. I had to reduce the TX power.

                Why almost perfect IB nulling? If there is almost zero RX-signal, the decoded phase isn't stable at the noise levels. We need some minimal residual RX-voltage to make the phase decoding stable.

                So, we have answered the long lasting question for the pre-amp need. Yes, we need a pre-amp.
                Pre-amp gain?
                What you prefer. 50 - 100, 100, 100 - 500. Everything is possible with the IB nulling technique.

                Aziz

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                • Hello friends,

                  it is now time for the new 3 V pre-amp.
                  If I take an RX coil with 1 Ohm series resistor and a gain of 108 (so approx. x100), I get an input voltage noise density of 0.179 nV/rtHz. You see, that the 0.2 nV/rtHz can be achieved easily now.
                  This will produce at 10 kHz with 200 Hz bandwidth 0.273 µV (rms) noise. The sound card noise is much higher. I wouldn't see the pre-amp noise in the FFT spectrum or the decoded values.

                  For a RX=2 Ohm, it rises to 0.221 nV/rtHz. Still super-duper. Noise will be 0.34 µV (rms).

                  If I find some spare time, I will make the 3 V pre-amp.

                  Cheers

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                  • Originally posted by Aziz View Post
                    I have adjusted the amplitude and phase and have achieved the perfect IB. I mean really perfect as it can be done up to the noise floor level.
                    Until you lower the coil to the ground, then you get a huge reactive signal. And this will vary rapidly as you sweep the coil, so you can't just cancel it on-the-fly without affecting target signals. This is why companies don't strive for super-nulled coils, it doesn't matter.

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