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  • h9361
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    Originally posted by Orbit View Post
    Both one and the other are with two tones. Whites 4 is with a switch and an amplitude amplifier in the tx..
    Thanks.
    About White 4, can you tell me the two Q model?

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  • Smirnov-Arta
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    Originally posted by pito View Post
    ...
    So, "we" end up with a complex, "dirty" signal from the transmitting coil—featuring a "spike" equal to half the amplitude (a spike that will, moreover, pulsate)—which will inevitably affect subsequent processes, so to speak... Maybe it's not worth it?)
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  • pito
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    Originally posted by h9361 View Post

    A friend suggested me the schematic.
    I simulated it but my waveform is not correct.
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    increase L2, reduce C2

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  • Orbit
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    Both one and the other are with two tones. Whites 4 is with a switch and an amplitude amplifier in the tx..
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  • h9361
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    Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post

    I just thought of another way. Somewhere on these forums someone presented a sinusoidal TX circuit that could achieve a very high voltage drive with a modest power supply. I don't remember much about it, maybe someone will know what I'm talking about and post a link to the thread.
    A friend suggested me the schematic.
    I simulated it but my waveform is not correct.
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  • h9361
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    Originally posted by Orbit View Post
    Here are two Whites schemes !Both one and the other are with two tones. Whites 4 is with a switch and an amplitude amplifier in the tx..
    There is no any attachment, check your post.

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  • Orbit
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    Error

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  • h9361
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    Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post

    I just thought of another way. Somewhere on these forums someone presented a sinusoidal TX circuit that could achieve a very high voltage drive with a modest power supply. I don't remember much about it, maybe someone will know what I'm talking about and post a link to the thread.
    Thanks dear Carl.
    I tried to find the forum, but i could not.
    About your number 3, can i use the ready inductor as L1?
    For testing, do you think i should connect LTX to scope and see its sine form snd amplitude?

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  • Sergey_P
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    Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
    Good thing we are not designing radios.
    For the receiver, the bandwidth is important, and for the transmitter, the magnitude of the generated field (B~I*N) at a given supply voltage and the quality factor of the radiating system are important.

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  • Carl-NC
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    Originally posted by h9361 View Post
    Regarding to your knowledge and experience, do you have any suggestions for increasing power of TX?
    I just thought of another way. Somewhere on these forums someone presented a sinusoidal TX circuit that could achieve a very high voltage drive with a modest power supply. I don't remember much about it, maybe someone will know what I'm talking about and post a link to the thread.

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  • Carl-NC
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    Good thing we are not designing radios.

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  • Sergey_P
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    Powering a series oscillatory circuit from a current source is radio engineering illiteracy.

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  • Carl-NC
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    Originally posted by h9361 View Post
    But is it possible to tell me values of Q1, R1, C1, C2, L1 and LTX?
    No, you will have to figure them out through trial-and-error. Here are the values for the MXT (14.8kHz):

    R1 = 3.32Ω (1V drive)
    L1 = 1mH
    C1 = 560nF
    C2 = 330nF
    LTX = 540uH

    The Fisher F75 (13kHz) also has the same driver:

    R1 = 12.1Ω (1.1V drive)
    L1 = 2.2mH
    C1 = 470nF
    C2 = 470nF
    LTX = 680uH​

    The PNP can be any decent transistor.

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  • pito
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    high power Tx https://radiolocation.weebly.com/upl...ndantennas.pdf

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  • h9361
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    Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
    1. Increase the TX power supply voltage
    2. Use a transformer to increase the voltage drive to the coil:
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      These are tricky to get right and only provide a 2x voltage boost at best.
    4. Reduce the TX coil inductance. For a given coil size, transmitted field energy is proportional to the ampere-turns NI. I is proportional to V/L and L is proportional to N2 so, overall, TX field strength is proportional to N*V/L --> N*V/N2 --> V/N. So reducing N should boost field strength.
    Thanks for your suggestion.
    I want to test number 3.
    In IDX, TX uses +8 and -8. So, i remove its TX and replace the number 3.
    I produces 6.5K pulse using 555 as CLK.
    In IDX, TX is 580uH with 1uF.

    But is it possible to tell me values of Q1, R1, C1, C2, L1 and LTX?

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