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  • golfnut
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    Originally posted by mohandes View Post
    hi dear golfnut
    you send before these image here , and so why these values are diff ?
    and about CC coil , can you teach us , please.
    regards

    Adding the trimmer gives user flexibility to cope with variance in coils - try this if you like


    The pcb/schematic in 2401 is as supplied in the kit


    both work, neither is wrong, you choose.

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  • ampirate
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    Attached are better Images of the Board :

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  • mohandes
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    Originally posted by Koala View Post
    MSPA13 should be cold. Wrong component short or wrong orientation. Had a quick look at your photos lot of work there but can't see enough detail to check for you
    hi
    dear friend you use which schematic of number 2407 ????????????
    regards

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  • mohandes
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    Originally posted by ampirate View Post
    Okay, found 1 problem:
    - Speaker was plugged into GND instead of 220R resistor - which overheated the MPSA13 and drained my batteries.
    - I did not realize it; the mistake was assuming the diagram was correct.
    - see: Page 30 Posting #734 - IDXPCBFRONT-1024X768.JPG

    But, I still only get about 2-inch range.
    I carefully adjust the coil to a hum,
    then a Coin waved within only 2-inch range - causes a Buzz and Beep.
    While all the Pots still seem to have no effect high or low: DISC, SENS, OFS, GEB.
    for your attachment you can use 2.7zener just turn it 180 deg.
    and if you have problem check all part and careful dont have short circuit . print of your pcb in paper then check with multimeter , it can help you more.
    excuse for my English

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  • ampirate
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    Okay, found 1 problem:
    - Speaker was plugged into GND instead of 220R resistor - which overheated the MPSA13 and drained my batteries.
    - I did not realize it; the mistake was assuming the diagram was correct.
    - see: Page 30 Posting #734 - IDXPCBFRONT-1024X768.JPG

    But, I still only get about 2-inch range.
    I carefully adjust the coil to a hum,
    then a Coin waved within only 2-inch range - causes a Buzz and Beep.
    While all the Pots still seem to have no effect high or low: DISC, SENS, OFS, GEB.

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  • Koala
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    Originally posted by ampirate View Post
    And, below is the Coil :

    [ATTACH]29684[/ATTACH]

    Questions:

    I find my MPSA13 overheats and the 2-inch range drops out to zero often.

    Which Caps need to be Poly or Mica ?
    - I only see directions for the 1uF Caps as Poly
    - but Board Images seem to use all be Poly or Mica Caps ...
    - I have only used Ceramic Caps so far - with intention to replace as needed.
    MSPA13 should be cold. Wrong component short or wrong orientation. Had a quick look at your photos lot of work there but can't see enough detail to check for you

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  • mohandes
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    Originally posted by golfnut View Post
    This is the best schematic there is to the current pcb.

    [ATTACH]29668[/ATTACH]

    [ATTACH]29669[/ATTACH]
    hi dear golfnut
    you send before these image here , and so why these values are diff ?
    and about CC coil , can you teach us , please.
    regards
    Attached Files

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  • ampirate
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    Originally posted by golfnut View Post
    I would suggest getting a board from Silverdog and follow the silkscreen or my shematic in post 2401
    Silverdog has been out of stock for weeks now.
    I gave up with him.

    Posting #2401 is a Top Board image - NOT a MASK - NO Traces

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  • golfnut
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    You have clearly worked hard on this so far and Im sure one day you will get going.

    The images are not good enough for anyone on here to help you.


    Capacitor choice isnt based purely on IDX contsraint, rather just putting the right type for the job - in line with capacitor types and what they are best for.

    from memory - dont quate me

    Polypropylene, Polycarbonate nF range - all rounders below 10MHz, reasonable price
    PPE - Very low loss below 1MHz, pricey, high end filters, surface mount can be tough to solder reliably, as they can melt
    Silvered Mica - pF range often wax dipped, good long term stabilty, more for RF to VHF, take high volts well
    Electrolytic - almost a small battery, 1uF-Farads good at reducing ripple on rails, - down side is they only go in one way
    Electrolytic - non polarised - can handle a.c. signals will pass audio frequencies well, use in low freq filters etc
    polyester, - small values, pF, low nF, signals to low RF used to be cheap and small. Poor mans silvered mica.
    Ceramic - small values, pF,nF take volts well, not really for audio, mainly used in decouplng rails, bypassing, emi filtering, cheap


    I would suggest getting a board from Silverdog and follow the silkscreen or my shematic in post 2401

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  • ampirate
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    And, below is the Coil :

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    Questions:

    I find my MPSA13 overheats and the 2-inch range drops out to zero often.

    Which Caps need to be Poly or Mica ?
    - I only see directions for the 1uF Caps as Poly
    - but Board Images seem to use all be Poly or Mica Caps ...
    - I have only used Ceramic Caps so far - with intention to replace as needed.

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  • ampirate
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    BOARD Images

    Attached are photos of my 2 Boards, same Etching and Parts :

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  • ampirate
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    Originally posted by golfnut View Post
    Is this one you made or a kit from silverdog?
    I made this board using the Modified Mask here to Etch the Boards.
    I am finishing a second board in the next day or 2.

    And that Attachment that you just posted is a Board image and Not ther MASK.
    Also, it does not include FREQ connector.

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  • golfnut
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    This is the best schematic there is to the current pcb.

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  • golfnut
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    Is this one you made or a kit from silverdog?

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  • ampirate
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    Still,
    I am only getting between 1 to 2-inch range using a Coin with the Coil.

    Is the FREQ Pins needed or Optional ?
    - i did not connect this because I diid not see this on most Schematics.

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