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[slomobi]

SLOMOBI - you have made 6 posts since you joined the forum in February.

Every post you have made has been derogatory against Blisstool and Ahmed.

Support your outrageous claim with FACTS - post the information you have - if not then you are nothing more than a slanderous assh-le.

I personally spoke to Ahmed yesterday and all was well. He pulled his site down over a week ago to revamp his entire product line.

Again - to make such a claim - you should support it with a link to a newsworthy source.

Oh, and as a matter of fact, I know that your Mother wears army boots.

I joined this forum to warn users that BLISSTOOL will wait a very long time to recieve their metal detectors. If you understand Bulgarian, I can give you reliable information from the site of the police that Ahmed Merchev was arrested and will spend a long time behind bars. The main reason for stopping the site and closure of BLISSTOOL factory is that they have no safety certificates required by the laws of the European Union.

[barryny]

Support your claim

SLOMOBI - you have made 6 posts since you joined the forum in February.

Every post you have made has been derogatory against Blisstool and Ahmed.

Support your outrageous claim with FACTS - post the information you have - if not then you are nothing more than a slanderous assh-le.

I personally spoke to Ahmed yesterday and all was well. He pulled his site down over a week ago to revamp his entire product line.

Again - to make such a claim - you should support it with a link to a newsworthy source.

Oh, and as a matter of fact, I know that your Mother wears army boots.

[WM6]

Currently Merchev Ahmed (owner of BLISSTOOL) was arrested and http://www.blisstool.com/ was stopped by Bulgarian authorities.
In Bulgaria already has a lot of complaints by BLISSTOOL. BLISSTOOL users have a severe headache .

Can you provide an authentic link to those news?

Web page alone can be down for many of reasons, not only due owner arresting.

Probably jealous competitors have more "severe headache" than Blisstool users.

[slomobi]

Not the least bit likely.

Currently Merchev Ahmed (owner of BLISSTOOL) was arrested and http://www.blisstool.com/ was stopped by Bulgarian authorities.
In Bulgaria already has a lot of complaints by BLISSTOOL. BLISSTOOL users have a severe headache .

[Carl-NC]

...that because of the high power that has BLISSTOOL is dangerous for human health

Not the least bit likely.

[slomobi]

Hi guys, today visited to http://www.blisstoolukforum.com/ and saw that there was a warning from a visitor to the forum asked administrator whether BLISSTOOL have CE certificate, that because of the high power that has BLISSTOOL is dangerous for human health, 20 minutes the message has been deleted.

[Funfinder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnlFP...ature=youtu.be

a new video

Great video, thx. I've found something very interesting -
because the Blisstool's circuit is based on the old Fisher
I'm shure it has the same "special beach depth" as it is
described here:

(in the middle of post #65 and the reply from post #66)

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/relic-hunting/89510-fisher-1266x-still-relic-hunting-legend-7.html

You will never miss a fine gold chain. In wet set, I have
dug rings and coins at 2 feet down and that is the honest
truth. I have many witnesses for the previous statement!

I have also used mine for beach hunting--and for some rea-
son this machine will go through sand to an incredible depth.

[ivconic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=_RwN_2502kg

[ivconic]

Ivconic, I know that Deus is a great machine, but can do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAyy1DtXkcQ
Can you test with coin under some old rusty iron pieces? I'm torn whether Deus or Spectra?

Are those brown chunks iron or mineral? In case those are mineral; than no problem, even my IGSL can do the same.
But, in case those chunks are rusty iron - than when coin is fully covered with them there is no way to reject iron and accept only coin. Than it is a trick on video. Higher tone is than produced from iron and not from coin!
Simply, think; such iron mass, maybe 20 times larger (in mass) than tiny coin when fully covers the coin - no way to void it and detect only coin. Simple law of Physics.
If you said it is possible ; than i pull my hat down and give up from any further debate!
It is only dirty trick and nothing else. Think "plastic" - it is the "battle" of surfaces (from EM field point of view).
On other hand; small nails arround coin: possible to reject and accept only coin, Deus can do, Cscope 6MX can do, XPGMP can do... maybe many others, no problem.
...
Deus or Spectra? My choice is Deus.

[SGS]

Ivconic, I know that Deus is a great machine, but can do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAyy1DtXkcQ
Can you test with coin under some old rusty iron pieces? I'm torn whether Deus or Spectra?

[ivconic]

Paul, nearest beach is 600km away from my home.
Therefore i can not make video "on the beach".
Nor i need it to.
Video you are talking about is idiotic. Completelly. Proves nothing.
So obvious.
Deus is most powerfull, finest and deepest metal detector ever built - please try to understand and remember that, once for all.
25 years of dealing with detectors and probably 90 and more original models passed through my hands. Hundreds of tests. Hundred of real soil types.
Enough for me to be sure in certain things.
Deus will hit any ring deeper than Blisstool, anytime, anywhere. Period.
On other hand; rough, so called "power" at some DIY detectors (such as Blisstool too) is only virtual power that can be seen only on bench or under previously prepared conditions in testing purposes.
Real power is not something that you can show on video.
Real power is something which you can experience on several real terrains under unpredictable and unexpectable conditions.
I have Deus for (maybe) 20 days only. 12 times went outdoor with it, on real sites.
Same sites i've been visiting for so many years with numerous brands and models.
Is there any better way to test metal detector than that?
No, there is no better way.
Wet sand conditions you are trying to point on; are nothing special indeed.
Nothing special comparing to some sites i have here in my vicinity.
So, if i come here and say that Deus is No.1 and Blisstool is just another DIY project - you better believe me, because i do know what am i talking about.
I don't have slightest intention to offend anybody nor to degrade somebodys work and effrots.
Simply because i am DIY'er too and i do know the feeling when somebody else is spitting on your work and ideals.
No, i would never join here to say a word in this topic if i didn't saw that video with "beach & chains"!
All the time i am "atttacking" the way how that video is made and nothing else.
Video is not showing the truth, that's all.

Regards!

[Paul23]

Ivconic,

Thanks for you input and the video. Are you saying that the deus will hit the chains in the wet sand? Can you tell me if you have also achieved tha depth that the Bliss appears to be hitting on the gold ring in the beach video? Do you have any video of the chain test on the beach with a deus that you could point me to. Being an excalibur user i know that i am missing the chains

I am not wanting to start any arguments here i would just like all the facts that i can get at this time.

WM6,
My comment with the gain being backed off is how i see it being explained, not that someone has explained it exactly that way to me, i am sort of trying to read between the lines of what is being said and what i have watched. I am not technical in any way, hence why i try to read/watch before i buy. I am also hoping to get sound unbias assistance.

What i am struggling with at the moment, is that the UK buyers (who are posting) appear impressed with the machine, these are people that i have seen posting on forums for many years and i believed have some knowledge on the subject.

All this thinking is making my head hurt

Thanks,
Paul....

[ivconic]

Yes but you are not likely to get a mobile phone burried next to a Gold Chain are you. And what if the battery goes flat.

At Deus or at phone?!

[Delbert grady]

Phone

Yes but you are not likely to get a mobile phone burried next to a Gold Chain are you. And what if the battery goes flat.

[ivconic]

dues on gold chains is very poor except on 18khz,and even then not much depth .
but then again many are poor on gold chains so any machine that picks them up good is a bonus.
i rubbed a gold chain over the coil in many deus programs and it wont see them at all.
not a peep .
so i reckon the beach test is a fair test ...

In additon, i reconsidered what you are saying here and few second ago i performed detailed checks and tests.

GMP,Fast,Wet, Dry - all those do detect same chain very well at : 18,12 and 8kHz.
At 4kHz all those are detecting same chain very bad, maybe 1/5 from previous distance.
Dry performs much better than Wet, no matter which one of 3 mentioned freq. is choosen.
GMP outperforms all others.
To improve Wet detection of chain you must do certain trimming.
Lower Disc to 8. Rise Sense over 80 (up to 95 if possible).
Use any of those 3: 18,12 or 8kHz.
And Wet will perform much better.
We all must agree that 4kHz are certainly not ideal for tiny chain detection.
Yet other 3 are performing just nice.
Any of those 3 freqs and any of mentioned programs will outperform at chain detection any other brand and model i know, except Minelab GP and GPX.
That's the truth.