blisstool ltc64x v2i

[holyuser]

My trip went well, as usual, always, but your humor shows your ignorance considering the fact that Blisstool ltc64x v3 has perfect discrimination of iron. Anyone who has used this machine knows that.

You are recognized, Ahmed Merchev!
Why hide anonymous? Maybe you ashamed of yourself?
You think yourself very smart, registered as plain user to make your spam.

This is not behavior worthy of inventor and manufacturer of metal detectors.

[WM6]

I think it is clear to all that your virtual experience is not valid in reality. A word of advice, stop watching video and start practicing the hobby into practice , but not only with White's M6. It is good only for your room

You tested in reality blisstool machine? No. Given this, I understand your ignorance on the matter, but it is unfortunate that you are so deluded after you had any claims in this area.

Big words of big scammer.

Even virtual experience is enough to conclude (out of your video) that your "bliss" detect a crowd of ghost targets in soil and even in air.

And that you avoid real tests. Prove that this is not true.

[kamdox]

As seen on videos ,Blisstool work with interferences (detect soil and air) in open field too.

This is real problem, not how it work in room.

I think it is clear to all that your virtual experience is not valid in reality. A word of advice, stop watching video and start practicing the hobby into practice , but not only with White's M6. It is good only for your room

You tested in reality blisstool machine? No. Given this, I understand your ignorance on the matter, but it is unfortunate that you are so deluded after you had any claims in this area.

[joop]

This means the german (or still belgium?!) detector test doesn't
use allmetalmode at all which gives for shure 20-35% more depth.

I can understand what the reason for this type of test is. In Germany/Belgium and the Netherlands, Roman and Medieval habitation sites have lots of iron. The challenge here is to find interesting objects between all the rusty nails. Searching in all metal mode will make you nuts, even if you can hear what is iron and what not.

[WM6]

Blisstool not work well in a room with interferences.

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As seen on videos ,Blisstool work with interferences (detect soil and air) in open field too.

This is real problem, not how it work in room.

[kamdox]

but at least
now with the depth improved v3 those values haven't changed:

http://blisstool.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=243&Itemid=96&lang=en

I follow this long. I think these data refer to Blisstool ltc64x V1 or Blisstool ltc64x V2. V3 is better. Here is the description of the different versions announced by the manufacturer:

http://blisstool.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=36&func=view&id=1127&catid=23&lang=en

I have direct experience between V2 and V3 and confirm these data.

Personal test 1 Euro (23mm):
within close living-room electricity @ air:
threshold 0: 18cm
threshold 3: 22cm
threshold 5: 27cm

However under good conditions outside threshold 8-9 is no problem and could result @ 33-36cm (not tested yet)

I am surprised by your incompetence in this case. Blisstool not work well in a room with interferences. I learned this long before I read its manual. In ground it easily detect coin 23 mm of 36-45 cm depth depending on the soil and on the exact Blisstool version (this refers to the model ltc64x).

[WM6]

I am not interested in video tests but from my personal experience with different machines. For me, perfect discrimination is the fact that with Blisstool I do not dig iron, if I do not want this. I easily distinguish it. It seems that in your virtual life you have other criteria

I know, that you are not interested in real test, cos your "bliss" cannot pass it.

My criteria in virtual and in real are the same: detector should not detect surrounding soil and air, as blisstool ltc64 do.

[kamdox]

Maybe, but not so on your videos.

Perfect discrimination of iron mean no signal on iron targets, something that was not seen on your videos.

Seems that Blisstool cannot perfect "discriminate" even surrounding soil and air not to say iron.

I am not interested in video tests but from my personal experience with different machines. For me, perfect discrimination is the fact that with Blisstool I do not dig iron, if I do not want this. I easily distinguish it. It seems that in your virtual life you have other criteria

[Funfinder]

Okay, one more time ... I will try to translate it literally...

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All of the objects are buried years ago next to iron so it resembles reality, because tests in clear soil always have greater depths.

Before the test a large 7 cm. long nail is discriminated.

These tests should not be used when buying a detector because in other types of soil values will be different.
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It does not say what kind of iron is buried next to an object.

Thx for your help - I will translate it now so everyone (even me ) has the plain info:

The buried close to iron has nothing to do with the 7cm nail.
And we don't know what shape, size and distance this iron has.

And the nail is used to set all the different detectors to the same
"discriminate 7cm iron nails" level only.

This means the german (or still belgium?!) detector test doesn't
use allmetalmode at all which gives for shure 20-35% more depth.

We really need to know all those facts much earlier.

[kamdox]

But anyone watching these videos needs to be aware that there can be a big difference between a demo and actually using the machine yourself. With the sensitivity / gain reduced to a usable [sensible] level, I suspect the depths will be more realistic, as shown in a chart someone posted earlier.

In my experience, there is not much difference. With my Blisstool I achieve even better results, but it is V3, which is better than V2 and V2I. To stabilize the detector, I mainly use the silencer and the threshold but please note that whenever I can, I work with gain max or near to it, and this is almost always

[WM6]

fact that Blisstool ltc64x v3 has perfect discrimination of iron. Anyone who has used this machine knows that.

Maybe, but not so on your videos.

Perfect discrimination of iron mean no signal on iron targets, something that was not seen on your videos.

Seems that Blisstool cannot perfect "discriminate" even surrounding soil and air not to say iron.

[kamdox]

Do not forget to pick up at your trip a handful of rusty nails, because without them your garbage blistool not to find any target.

My trip went well, as usual, always, but your humor shows your ignorance considering the fact that Blisstool ltc64x v3 has perfect discrimination of iron. Anyone who has used this machine knows that.

[joop]

That "before the test a 7cm iron nail gets discriminated"
desribed in german here:

http://www.metalldetektortest.de/detektortests.html

for shure also reduces some depth but exactly how?
Where's this nail located exactly, permanent or not?

Okay, one more time ... I will try to translate it literally...

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All of the objects are buried years ago next to iron so it resembles reality, because tests in clear soil always have greater depths.

Before the test a large 7 cm. long nail is discriminated.

These tests should not be used when buying a detector because in other types of soil values will be different.
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It does not say what kind of iron is buried next to an object.

[Funfinder]

very well now it seems we have no more other problems
than wrong depth values.

Well, he has used some "experimental model" - perhaps the
newest and for test purposes special modified Blisstool model
(pitched voltage, high stable electronical parts etc.) but at least
now with the depth improved v3 those values haven't changed:

http://blisstool.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=243&Itemid=96&lang=en

But of course there should be still huge difference if we compare
this with our german test-results:

10mm: scripulum / lead ball: depth: 9cm / 14cm
blisstool page experimental model (thin) coin 10mm: depth 22cm

18mm: bronze ring / coin follis: depth each 14cm
blisstool page experimental model coin 18.5mm: depth 35cm

25 / 27mm á 10 grams: coin as / coin dupondius: depth 19-18cm
blisstool page experimental model (thin) coin 24.5mm: depth 40cm

So at the Blisstool Page we have almost the double amount of
depth which would be completly inacceptable if there are no
special factors we also have to calculate.

Personal test 1 Euro (23mm):
within close living-room electricity @ air:
threshold 0: 18cm
threshold 3: 22cm
threshold 5: 27cm

However under good conditions outside threshold 8-9 is no problem and could result @ 33-36cm (not tested yet)

Depending on the soil, close distance coil to ground and no electricity lines nearby this may result in 25-30cm for a buried 1 Euro coin for trained ears and 20-25cm in almost silent (for Blisstool-Newbies or real relaxing) mode.

Those are just my personal results and if the LTC64 v3
has a real good depth improvement 1 Euro may be found buried at 35cm which would be just 5cm less than with those posted experimental detector tests 24.5mm @ 40cm.

The 1,5mm is not much difference - in this range 1mm of larger
diameter gives 1cm more depth.

So if the posted results at the blisstool tests are in air tests -
that's the big question - there even wouldn't be much difference
to my ("old") model!

We have to find out about this because depending on the
mineralization the Blisstool (and almost any MDs) loses depth.
As we also can see at the german test site.

That "before the test a 7cm iron nail gets discriminated"
desribed in german here:

http://www.metalldetektortest.de/detektortests.html

for shure also reduces some depth but exactly how?
Where's this nail located exactly, permanent or not?

Neverthless those middle long time ago buried items
(also written there) would improve detection depth.

Those are the special factors including the level of mineralization
plus including the distance of coil to ground we all have to know.


@ target
thx for the additional info, perhaps you can show us the
LTC64 v3 depth difference air vs buried, using 3 different
sized coins including described soil mineralisation level.

[holyuser]

Below the old Blisstool LTC64 depth info from their homepage, January 2011:

The content of that table is an shameless fabrication.
That distances of detection could be reached in the open space, not in real earth soil.
In the real conditions, the blistool metaldetector is impotent to detect roman denarius at 14 cm depth, what we can see here: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=68