RELIC HAWK

[amtech2005]

RELIC HAWK

ITS NOT CORRECT AND A LOT IS MISSING FROM ORIGINAL MINELAB SCHEMATIC. ANY COMMENTS ARE WELCOME . The RELIC HAWK WAS DISCONTINUED IN 2000 , I THINK ?? THANK-YOU EUGENE

[ivconic]

This schematic is also faked. Missing parts like switch is not issue here. Original Relic Hawk has feature to switch 3 band passes. Now, this "reduced" version made from bulgarian enthusiasts is without that feature.Not a big deal. They produced some serie and i've got pretty positive reports on that detector, meaning it is working just fine. So logically this schematic is without switch and extra band passes. Yet it is still faked. Look pin 7. of 4066????
Should go to Vss, right? Also more mistakes if you take closer look.
Generally this schematic could be used to check existent device.
To be continued...

[Max]

This schematic is also faked. Missing parts like switch is not issue here. Original Relic Hawk has feature to switch 3 band passes. Now, this "reduced" version made from bulgarian enthusiasts is without that feature.Not a big deal. They produced some serie and i've got pretty positive reports on that detector, meaning it is working just fine. So logically this schematic is without switch and extra band passes. Yet it is still faked. Look pin 7. of 4066????
Should go to Vss, right? Also more mistakes if you take closer look.
Generally this schematic could be used to check existent device.
To be continued...

Hi Ivconic,
yes sure isn't complete... but I think the 4066 pin is not a real problem... I mean happens frequently that on some devices you don't write about ground and vcc pins... cause are obvious. I think you can say same thing for e.g. op amps.

Sometimes... when stuff is loaded in simulators the e.g. transmission gates don't give any reference to vcc and gnd connection... very usual thing.

So depends much on wich software they used to make schematic I think.

But for a serious projects related to RH I think a true complete and error free schematic is needed.

Seems hard stuff... cause till now I saw nothing about...

Kind regards,
Max

[amtech2005]

RELIC HAWK

MAX , HAVE YOU LOGGED ON TO IVCONICS NEW WEBSITE ? IT'S A GREAT NEW FORUM "A SUPPLEMENT TO THIS ONE OF COURSE" !!!! ANYWAY , THE RELIC HAWK SCHEMATIC I POSTED IS A 'LIGHT VERSION' OF THE RELIC HAWK AND THERE ARE COMPLAINTS OF A DIFFERENCE IN DEPTH OF DETECTION. SOMETIMES SHORTCUTS HURT QUALITY. ON IVCONICS SITE HAS THE ORIGINAL PCB BOARD PHOTO AND THE NEW LITE VERSION PHOTO - A BIG DIFFERENCE IN SIZE . CHECK OUT HIS WEBSITE AND THANK-YOU FOR YOUR MANY POSTS HERE ON GEOTECH OVER THE YEARS!!! TAKE CARE EUGENE

[Max]

MAX , HAVE YOU LOGGED ON TO IVCONICS NEW WEBSITE ? IT'S A GREAT NEW FORUM "A SUPPLEMENT TO THIS ONE OF COURSE" !!!! ANYWAY , THE RELIC HAWK SCHEMATIC I POSTED IS A 'LIGHT VERSION' OF THE RELIC HAWK AND THERE ARE COMPLAINTS OF A DIFFERENCE IN DEPTH OF DETECTION. SOMETIMES SHORTCUTS HURT QUALITY. ON IVCONICS SITE HAS THE ORIGINAL PCB BOARD PHOTO AND THE NEW LITE VERSION PHOTO - A BIG DIFFERENCE IN SIZE . CHECK OUT HIS WEBSITE AND THANK-YOU FOR YOUR MANY POSTS HERE ON GEOTECH OVER THE YEARS!!! TAKE CARE EUGENE

Hi Eugene,
thanks for the info. I will take a look there soon.

Best regards,
Max

[ivconic]

"...yes sure isn't complete... but I think the 4066 pin is not a real problem... I mean happens frequently that on some devices you don't write about ground and vcc pins... cause are obvious. I think you can say same thing for e.g. op amps...."

It seems you didn't understand me? Look on posted schematic above and spot pin 7. of 4066. Ha? See?

[Max]

"...yes sure isn't complete... but I think the 4066 pin is not a real problem... I mean happens frequently that on some devices you don't write about ground and vcc pins... cause are obvious. I think you can say same thing for e.g. op amps...."

It seems you didn't understand me? Look on posted schematic above and spot pin 7. of 4066. Ha? See?

yes... now I see it... no... was a mistake... was thinking it was without supply rail connections only... not fake schematic!

All clear now!

Best regards,
Max

[DIRCEU]

yes... now I see it... no... was a mistake... was thinking it was without supply rail connections only... not fake schematic!

All clear now!

Best regards,
Max

HEI! HEI! MAX!
What is clear now??
Explain please. Is possible to post the corrected schematic?
Thanks
DIRCEU

[Max]

HEI! HEI! MAX!
What is clear now??
Explain please. Is possible to post the corrected schematic?
Thanks
DIRCEU

Hi,
just that I made a mistake... I wrote about absence of supply rail for 4066 but there it is a mistake (intentional or not I don't know) cause one supply pin , the one that goes to gnd, is reported as input for a transfer gate.

I didn't see it at first and so thought there were supply pins missing only... not bad wiring in schematic.

Sometimes funny people send intentionally fake schematics with errors inside... just to waste other people time!

Fact is that schematic is reduced version and contains other mistakes. So I think it's not good for a try... or well... it's not worth cause could be many problems and end up with wasted time.

Cause RH is complex stuff complete and error free schematic is the required step before attempting try to replicate it... at least I think so.

Kind regards,
Max

[amtech2005]

RELIC HAWK

I KNEW THAT THE RELIC HAWK SCHEMATIC I POSTED WAS NOT CORRECT , AND I SAID SO , RIGHT WHEN I POSTED IT !!! A CORRECT SCHEMATIC IS BEING WORKED ON AS WE SPEAK ALOHA FROM THE DESERT !!! EUGENE

[DIRCEU]

Hi,
just that I made a mistake... I wrote about absence of supply rail for 4066 but there it is a mistake (intentional or not I don't know) cause one supply pin , the one that goes to gnd, is reported as input for a transfer gate.

I didn't see it at first and so thought there were supply pins missing only... not bad wiring in schematic.

Sometimes funny people send intentionally fake schematics with errors inside... just to waste other people time!

Fact is that schematic is reduced version and contains other mistakes. So I think it's not good for a try... or well... it's not worth cause could be many problems and end up with wasted time.

Cause RH is complex stuff complete and error free schematic is the required step before attempting try to replicate it... at least I think so.

Kind regards,
Max

Ok! MAX.

I am very aching to do this project...but is best I wait for more real datas.
Thanks,

DIRCEU

[ivconic]

Sure thing

One thing is sure, refering this "reduced" version of RH. This is pcb, accurate and workable one. So i traced it again, this time hopefully no errors.
Component values? I do have some...some dont...
Need more time to check those.

[tiktak]

Hi,

Hi,
Have anyone found mistake here?
Because I think that its worth trying to make this nice unit.

[Unregistered]

Schematic is hire:
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[erolunall]

Hello

Unregistered schematics direct link is

http://www.snimka.bg/album.php?album_id=240227

Regards
Erol