Jeohunter - Visual Ground Scanner

[Funfinder]

I know all those fact, my dear friend, but this is not important.

What is important to me, is statement one of Jeohunter dealer (you understand that I cannot discover his name). On my question if Jeohunter is good buying decision for prospecting, he emailed answer to me (here with my words because of his indicative slangish English): ".... I cannot suggest you Jeohunter for prospecting, it is not very sensitive for natural tiny gold, we have a large selection of other detectors, which I can recommend you for prospecting ...." And in then another email: " ... in our test with gold coin very shallow, no more than 6cm deep in soil. I can recommend you ...."

What to conclude from this and your more than year long argumentation with cannoball detecting?

Look, you are good constructor in electronic, left this relic Jeohunter in Ruhe, and start to develop and test new ideas and share it with us here. I am first that will support your work.

Just what shall I do with you, WM6??? Now you're argumentation already looks a bit more sane and understandable and I hope for you this will be permanent...

But what do you want with this crazy wish : "let this cannonball detector go" (leave it rest in peace =Ruhe) ??? Why I should? I'm detecting hundred other things, too!!! Larger areas, more stuff and deeper things - it's the complete package that counts! And the Jeohunter still could find little coins!


I tell you what:
What we need is a detector that finds very small and very deep stuff and has ultra-lightweight coil. So far it doesn't exist so we either have to invent it or we have to live with the compromises.

Your dealers arguments only represent the aspect of finding very little stuff like gold-nuggets or small coins. And it's not fair to condemn the Jeohunter just because of this single point. If you wanna hunt for micro-gold nuggets get some extremly expensive Minelab with mini 5'' or 10cm coil. I have such small coil and I know how long it takes to search with this just a few squaremeters - and forget about deep stuff with such coils.

btw. you can ask ishtar hunter how good the little coil works with the Jeohunter - I don't have this 20x30cm coil but he has it and he can tell you how deep it detects (very) small stuff. This one also works well on beaches for the usual coin and ring hunting.

But for realistical treasure hunting the standard 45cm is perfect because it still can find usual coins at around 20cm depth but it covers a huge scan area and it even finds very deep stuff. The weight is a problem but it takes some amount of heavy copper for the coil for real depth power - this is simple electromagnetism law.

And it has no sense if you work with a small coil if you never will reach the region or depth where something is hidden! 45cm ist the minimum size for realistic and effective treasure hunting, everything else is for kids on small beaches or sand-boxes!

Hunting for goldnuggets is a special topic because most of the time they are extremly small or like sand grains. We would need a completly new technology that could detect grains and very deep stuff at the same time - this only would work with a combination of different coils which are connected in series or so. Or with cylindrical coils like those are used for wireless engery transfer. Best with some kind of reflector for power doubling!

I still wonder why it should not be possible using much higher frequencies! Bad ground penetration - yeah, maybe, but who cares if we raise the voltage?! Higher frequencies have much better resolution so they can find very small stuff and if the radiation is strong enough those will reach some good depths, too. And perhaps the at least 2 coils need to have some focus angle for centering the target. We may see...

[ishtar hunter]

Thank's

Translation for those who don`t read Turkish:-

Most metal detectors are good , but Jeohunter, it is God

(Already mentioned by someone else, sorry!)

Thank's for your translate.most metal detector turkey are good .(dedektörleri) Purpose:turkish detector.

[ishtar hunter]

Çoğu metal dedektörleri iyidir, ama Jeohunter Allah'tır.

Hi
Thank's mikebg yes all of metal detector of turky is good but the geohunter is gad them

[joejoe]

Translation for those who don`t read Turkish:-

Most metal detectors are good , but Jeohunter, it is God

(Already mentioned by someone else, sorry!)

A good joke is often repeated.

Don't worry funfinder- I don't know if I will purchase a jeotech as a first machine instead of a pulse with a big 'ol coil, but you have me convinced that it has potential and is worth trying. If it is more sensitive than a two box and can see voids that is very important.
WM6 is actually kinda funny. Just smile. Nothing else to do.

[der_fisherman]

Çoğu metal dedektörleri iyidir, ama Jeohunter Allah'tır.

Translation for those who don`t read Turkish:-

Most metal detectors are good , but Jeohunter, it is God

(Already mentioned by someone else, sorry!)

[WM6]

WM6, You are arrogant, impudent and you're constructing crazy buildings in your mind that are far away from any reality!

I know all those fact, my dear friend, but this is not important.

What is important to me, is statement one of Jeohunter dealer (you understand that I cannot discover his name). On my question if Jeohunter is good buying decision for prospecting, he emailed answer to me (here with my words because of his indicative slangish English): ".... I cannot suggest you Jeohunter for prospecting, it is not very sensitive for natural tiny gold, we have a large selection of other detectors, which I can recommend you for prospecting ...." And in then another email: " ... in our test with gold coin very shallow, no more than 6cm deep in soil. I can recommend you ...."

What to conclude from this and your more than year long argumentation with cannoball detecting?

Look, you are good constructor in electronic, left this relic Jeohunter in Ruhe, and start to develop and test new ideas and share it with us here. I am first that will support your work.

[Funfinder]

Hi mikebg,

I like Bulgaria and Turkey but Jeohunter is not god - it is more like phoenix from the ashes
(see avatar) because it's purpose and ability is to "lift" great finds from long ago "buried times" so they can shine again. And the Jeohunter is no Icarus where the feathers will fall off if they come close to the sun - this is a very reliable detector.

And we need further improvements - larger but very lightweight coil for super depth!


@ WM6
At least some longer reply, very fine, but not substancial. You may defend your person by false claims how "bad" I treat you but this is again just your subjective opinion and the problem is - only such treatment will help against you!

You are writing offending, substanceless and offtopic crap without end and don't get it!

How you can dare to telling the Jeohunter is "Nintendo Game" if you never have worked with such detector and guaranteed not for longer time? Should I start to claim that your Ma's a b*tch - this would be the same and how would you like it ???

So keep you fingers away from the keyboard if you know nothing about the Jeohunter, and you don't know anything!

WM6, You are arrogant, impudent and you're constructing crazy buildings in your mind that are far away from any reality!

And you are destroying the motivation for metal detection!

This is no constructive electronical help you have to offer but just stupid jokes! And that's the reason why you like to provocate at the Remote Sensing forum that much. Look at your new reply at geophysics with OKM EXP4000 - are you completly nuts???

You want to falsify claims by stupid counter-attacks? You can have it. But this is no scientifical work but childish jokes what you are producing here! And you are no Madfinder, you are already fully mad.


Give us technical fundamential arguments or play somewhere else, this is no Hippie Community here were some frustrated electronical freaks on drugs can make everything look bad and "not working".

[WM6]

WM6, we need a special offtopic forum extra for you where you can write your jokes, your remote sensing nonsense, your not knowing anything stuff about good detectors. There you also can defend yourself why you only are able writing substance-less and all this stupid timewasting childsplay-crap! Perhaps you made some experiments with extreme high radiation that fried your brain a little bit or you have some crazy reasons to hate metal-detectors generally. However, if you continue I will guarantee you NO single ONE here ever will take you for serious.

Hi Funfinder,

what happen with you? Why all this so ugly words?

Is this because I made this collection of your own criticism on your cannonball detector:

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...&postcount=238 ?

Don't worry. Citation was taken from the times when you were relatively normal (do you remember start of this tread 02-20-2010?). And then something happen with you. I dont know what, probably first cannonbal you found is fallen at your toe, but you became crazy. You see what gaming with Nintendo cannonball detector could cause? Do not say that I did not warn you in time about such playing. And now? Now you become Madfinder from Funfinder. I undestand you, but for God's sake, I pray you again, sell your dangerous cannonball-finder as soon as possible to not completely ruin your health.

[Qiaozhi]

Çoğu metal dedektörleri iyidir, ama Jeohunter Allah'tır.

Even for jokes made in a non-English language (in this case, Turkish), you should provide a translation:
"Most metal detectors are good, but Jeohunter God."

[mikebg]

Çoğu metal dedektörleri iyidir, ama Jeohunter Allah'tır.

[Funfinder]

Look at this beautifull findings, found with Jeohunter and Jeosonar.

Isnt amazing?

http://austriantimes.at/news/Around_.../Tunnel_vision

Look at the beautiful WM6, he knows nothing about metal detectors, he has no convining arguments why the Jeohunter does not work, he finds no cavity but perhaps he lives in a cave and he seems to be very tired or without power because his posts are so extremly short.

WM6, we need a special offtopic forum extra for you where you can write your jokes, your remote sensing nonsense, your not knowing anything stuff about good detectors. There you also can defend yourself why you only are able writing substance-less and all this stupid timewasting childsplay-crap! Perhaps you made some experiments with extreme high radiation that fried your brain a little bit or you have some crazy reasons to hate metal-detectors generally. However, if you continue I will guarantee you NO single ONE here ever will take you for serious.

And now prove to ourselfes that you really have a Whites detector... ...
We will see how good are your arguments or if you're just fooling everyone...

[WM6]

Ha ha ha ha wm6
I think you're sick.but i can find a tunnel by geosonar and i attach a image of detection in turkey and it's in makro Company.detect in 8 meter depth.
You now work by whites detector but i work 14 year's ago and i far off (whites)

You give me very hard argument now, ishtar hunter. I cannot oppose such brilliant argument anymore.

What about to remove your scam people promotional tricks from Tech forum to Buy-Sell-Trade forum?
Or maybe to Remote sensing forum?

[ishtar hunter]

Ha ha ha ha wm6
I think you're sick.but i can find a tunnel by geosonar and i attach a image of detection in turkey and it's in makro Company.detect in 8 meter depth.
You now work by whites detector but i work 14 year's ago and i far off (whites)

[WM6]

Amazing new Jeo-findings

Look at this beautifull findings, found with Jeohunter and Jeosonar.

Isnt amazing?

http://austriantimes.at/news/Around_the_World/2011-08-03/35344/Tunnel_vision

[Funfinder]

thx for the new info - that's really terrible if all those well known brand detectors
are unable to work reliable at high mineralized ground! And this is not
professional work and it's not the reason of a metal detector to give misleading
results that can lead to dozens of hours hard work diggin very deep holes while
wasting alot precious time that should be used for "granted treasure-hunting".

And the complete way in the wrong direction of those well know MD facturers
ist to built the detection units inclusive batterypacks directly onto the holder!
How do they want to search with larger coils for more than 5 minutes? What
they're doing is destroying every realistic deep-search possibilities.

The Jeohunter unit hangs around the neck and this is perfect weight reducing.
And using bungee cords and stuff not really is practical under hard conditions.



Cool pix, ishtar hunter. The protection foil against rain or water is a good
idea. Yes, Jeosonar and Jeohunter are same, only the language is different.

Idea: You may find some big plasticwheels for driving the large coil on your
own very fast over large areas. The wheel has to be large and soft enough
and there should be a good method to attach that coil above one wheel or
inbetween 2 wheels left and right - everything made out of wood or plastic.