field test unit no 001 "model T"

[UrbanFox]

Sorry Ufox, you have lost your credibility by discrediting honest and decent people. Don't expect anything.

So Aziz, you don't have a clue, do you!!

[UrbanFox]

Try reading this: X R

Any success?

Would you like to tell me where your X R are to come from with respect to the spike with pulse induction?

[Davor]

So you do consult your troll buddies. Now this is a tad less trollish than before.

Now that you suddenly became eloquent as to rewording your "question" - just make an extra effort as to read the solution you are so desperate looking for by merely rewording your "question". Everything is already there. Including the elusive "how can I read two separate things that do not happen simultaneously"

Try reading this: X R

Any success?

[Aziz]

Rhetorical questions Davor.....I don't think so. Aziz suggested using the X and R component to cancel the ground in this thread which is discussing PI. In the VLF environment the X component is the change in amplitude caused by the ground and the R component is phase shift caused by the ground.

With PI things change. If we wait until the spike is out of the way there is no X component and there is no phase shift during the off period. Therefore, how do you use X and R to cancel the ground in the time domain.

I am interested to understand.

Sorry Ufox, you have lost your credibility by discrediting honest and decent people. Don't expect anything.

[UrbanFox]

Rhetorical questions are one of the classic examples of fallacious arguments and meaningless questions are fallacious per se. Trolls like ufox are mere empty shells incapable of real social relationships, or any true contribution.

Rhetorical questions Davor.....I don't think so. Aziz suggested using the X and R component to cancel the ground in this thread which is discussing PI. In the VLF environment the X component is the change in amplitude caused by the ground and the R component is phase shift caused by the ground.

With PI things change. If we wait until the spike is out of the way there is no X component and there is no phase shift during the off period. Therefore, how do you use X and R to cancel the ground in the time domain.

I am interested to understand.

[Aziz]

Aziz, I am not trying to be smart. If you are not prepared to give an explanation then can anyone here give me an explanation of how X and R are to be combined with a PI to cancel the ground.

The only way to get the sophisticated knowledge & IP is (perhaps) to legally sue me. I want to be legally sued for knowing something, that you and other market leaders don't know. That's your chance. What's the problem? Sue me.
But do this before I give the technology to the Chinese...

[Davor]

Hi Davor, could you please explain for me ...

You mean in fluent trollish? L e t m e w r i t e s l o o o o w l y s o t h a t y o u c a n r e a d i t: y o u c o u l d n e i t h e r u n d e r s t a n d n o r s t o p n a g g i n g i n a m i l l i o n y e a r s, a n d I d o n' t s e e t h e p o i n t. N o w a s k y o u r l i t e r a t e t r o l l b u d d i e s t o t r a n s l a t e t h i s t o y o u.


For the rest of us, the definition of logical fallacy says: "It exploits emotional triggers in the listener or takes advantage of social relationships between people."
Rhetorical questions are one of the classic examples of fallacious arguments and meaningless questions are fallacious per se. Trolls like ufox are mere empty shells incapable of real social relationships, or any true contribution.

[UrbanFox]

Hey Ufox, what's the problem?

Aziz, I don't have a problem. The problem is not mine.

You don't believe in my WBGB technolgy. It doesn't even exists in your world. So why are you insisting on to know about it?
Aziz

Aziz, look for the downsides as well as what you perceive to be the upsides.

Aziz, I am not trying to be smart. If you are not prepared to give an explanation then can anyone here give me an explanation of how X and R are to be combined with a PI to cancel the ground.

[Aziz]

Aziz, You still haven't answered my previous question. Pray tell where you are getting the X component from and how you are going to use it with the waveforms seen in this thread so far considering the effect that varying coil distance from the ground is going to have when the x component is used to calculate GB. Don't just continue to sing your Doo Dar Doo Dar Day worlds best ground balance nursery rhyme.

Hey Ufox, what's the problem? You don't believe in my WBGB technolgy. It doesn't even exists in your world. So why are you insisting on to know about it?
Aziz

[UrbanFox]

"World's best ground balance technology" (WBGB).
Aziz

Aziz, You still haven't answered my previous question. Pray tell where you are getting the X component from and how you are going to use it with the waveforms seen in this thread so far considering the effect that varying coil distance from the ground is going to have when the x component is used to calculate GB. Don't just continue to sing your Doo Dar Doo Dar Day worlds best ground balance nursery rhyme.

[Aziz]

Ufox is trying to get more info about the "World's best ground balance technology" (WBGB).
*LOL*
Ufox never contributed to a serious discussion. Only abusing and discrediting. I'm one of the "bad guys" target late time.
Aziz

[UrbanFox]

I was not answering the question ... I was stating that "you" are incorrect. This is the standard answer for people who ask incessant questions whilst never contributing to the conversation.

You would like me to contribute to the conversation....OK, could I ask you to throw a couple of handfuls of dirt in front of your test coil and then wave your targets around again and post a couple of the resulting waveforms from your oscilloscope...if you understand what I am getting at? Give me something constructive to converse about!

[moodz]

Thanks for that detailed explanation, Moodz. Is that the answer you give when you haven't got an answer??

I was not answering the question ... I was stating that "you" are incorrect. This is the standard answer for people who ask incessant questions whilst never contributing to the conversation.

[UrbanFox]

You are incorrect.

Thanks for that detailed explanation, Moodz. Is that the answer you give when you haven't got an answer??

[moodz]

Thanks Tinkerer. I am looking at a previous post...

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?17287-field-test-unit-no-001-quot-model-T-quot&p=158003#post158003

Where it was stated...

"But the ground balance can be implemented (by separating X and R) and the relation of X/R (or vice versa) gives a good indication to discriminate iron/non-iron targets. It might work for most conditions. But can fool you too"

My understanding is that the statement can be applied to VLF, but GB with PI will not directly use X component. Am I incorrect?

You are incorrect.