TESORO GOLDEN SABRE

[Max]

Generally you lose a lot of things at e-bay .
But my friend i can't help you. We are very small in order to resolve such issues
Anyway my regards
Btw... i want to make a OOcoil 20+20cm. Who is your opinion????

Hi Geo,
I think is a good idea... but problem could be ground signal and GEB with this.

The only way to know is building one. I've made different OO12cm for bandidoII and goldensabre and worked fine on the ground... (at least with bandido)... but I admit I'm a bit scared of making a real OO20cm for my detectors...

If you make a big DD you notice there is a bigger ground influence due to dimension of halves... even if perfectly shielded... the problem could be more and more bigger on an OO20cm.

I'm doing other stuff at the moment but I think that (at least in the air) an OO20cm could boost up performances of my existent detectors of about 25-30% respect to the big DD255x137mm I've made following Ivconic's specs.

But then also housing could be a real pain...

Anyway, could be very interesting as experiment.

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

[quote=nelson;60480]Hi Max.
Yestarday i began to build TGSL and i noticed a push buttom on schematics, do you know what is this for?
About my post about Fisher Gold Bug 2, i ll made the voltage regulator, but i will like to know from you, if the detector runs only from 9 volts or 18 volts.
For me, i understand that the machine works with 9 volts.
i hope you can understand what i mean.
Best regards.
Nelson

Hi Geo,
if you don't need notch build directly TGSL... you'll save work, noise, and consumption that way.

Hi Nelson,
I think you're referring to the switch that is at comparator near diode D12 is for inserting or not the 1Mohm resistor parallel to D12.

This will give you an audio boost... but if you read Ivconic's post about stability you'll notice there is a drawback in having that 1Mohm resistor there... cause of more instability at max sens.

So using the switch you can enable or disable the audio-boost, depending if your current setup (pot positions etc) can tolerate a bit more instability or not.

You can also avoid 1M and switch if you feel comfortable just with original audio. Is your choice.

About Gold Bug the voltage is 9V cause the 2 batteries feed the circuit by two diodes... so battery+diode are parallel one each other... they did that way cause circuit maybe require more current respect to that a single 9V can provide for enough searchtime. That way each battery provide about 1/2 current ...so last twice.

You have to check if your circuit is the same as in schematic I provided and then build a 9V regulator if so.

BTW the real voltage is under 9V depending on drop on diodes... it's something 8.3 to 8.5volts... but you can safely use 9V regulator for circuit.

Best regards,
Max

[Geo]

Looking at some e-bay md prices....gives me a lot of pain!
I missed so much nice devices so far....

Generally you lose a lot of things at e-bay .
But my friend i can't help you. We are very small in order to resolve such issues
Anyway my regards
Btw... i want to make a OOcoil 20+20cm. Who is your opinion????

[ivconic]

Looking at some e-bay md prices....gives me a lot of pain!
I missed so much nice devices so far....

[ivconic]

Honestly...looking forward!

[Qiaozhi]

To sorry to admit but no! Not yet...Shame...I worked with cell phones in 2000. and 2001. Had some friend in Hong Kong...So i had to open account in Germany, and by that account to make payments in Hong Kong. When he sent me phones and extras from there i had a lot of trouble to receive those. Had to wait 15 days on custom...had to pay several various taxes....had to stand and suffer various tortures from illiterate custom officers....had to wait and suffer they to open every single package...touch with their hands every item...stand and suffer cross examinations....every small, illiterate shmuck tortured me..like i was drug dealer, not importer!??? After day or two i could take my packages,opened,all mixed up and go home. I payed so many nonsenced taxes....i still dont know what i payed and to whom???
If you ever saw any holliwood movie which explains south American situation in time of cold war and Cuban crisis..? The very same situation i had here at the time!??? Now, situation is bit better....but still they rob us...to much money for what???? Same situation is if i want to send some package abroad....It is shame that i must speak like this about my country(which i like most-i dont have other)....but this is plain truth! Sort of communications GETO!!! Only internet left for us....If they read this....maybe i'll lost even this last good thing i ahve...!?
So...until better times comes.....
regards!

Oh well... maybe one day things will change.
At least you still have the internet.

[ivconic]

Hi Ivconic,

Have a look here -> http://sg.royalmail.com/portal/rm/PriceFinderResults?pageId=pc_sltc_rm_product&produ ctCarrier=RM&catId=23500532&keyname=1&index=4
It is interesting that Royal Mail can send a letter from the UK to Serbia for as little as 48p (0.7 euro). A small populated PCB probably weighs less than 100g, which would cost £1.31 (less than 2 euros).
Does Serbia not have a similar postal service going the other way? Seems a bit crazy to me.

To sorry to admit but no! Not yet...Shame...I worked with cell phones in 2000. and 2001. Had some friend in Hong Kong...So i had to open account in Germany, and by that account to make payments in Hong Kong. When he sent me phones and extras from there i had a lot of trouble to receive those. Had to wait 15 days on custom...had to pay several various taxes....had to stand and suffer various tortures from illiterate custom officers....had to wait and suffer they to open every single package...touch with their hands every item...stand and suffer cross examinations....every small, illiterate shmuck tortured me..like i was drug dealer, not importer!??? After day or two i could take my packages,opened,all mixed up and go home. I payed so many nonsenced taxes....i still dont know what i payed and to whom???
If you ever saw any holliwood movie which explains south American situation in time of cold war and Cuban crisis..? The very same situation i had here at the time!??? Now, situation is bit better....but still they rob us...to much money for what???? Same situation is if i want to send some package abroad....It is shame that i must speak like this about my country(which i like most-i dont have other)....but this is plain truth! Sort of communications GETO!!! Only internet left for us....If they read this....maybe i'll lost even this last good thing i ahve...!?
So...until better times comes.....
regards!

[nelson]

Hi Max.
Yestarday i began to build TGSL and i noticed a push buttom on schematics, do you know what is this for?
About my post about Fisher Gold Bug 2, i ll made the voltage regulator, but i will like to know from you, if the detector runs only from 9 volts or 18 volts.
For me, i understand that the machine works with 9 volts.
i hope you can understand what i mean.
Best regards.
Nelson


[quote=Max;60459]Hi Geo,
if you don't need notch build directly TGSL... you'll save work, noise, and consumption that way.

[Qiaozhi]

Oh, if we are closer! Fact that my country is not member of EU means a lot.
That fact keep Serbia to far away from rest of Europe...on Mars!
Every single,small packet (even plain envelope) will cost damn money for me to send abroad! One my friend send me 3cd's from Holland and payed only 3 euros for that!? If i was about to send simillar to him, it would costed me over 30euros!!! I cant even send money via Western Union from Serbia....can only receive from abroad...goodbye E-Bay! So far this is "deep hole"..i cant escape from here at all. Looking forward, next few years, things to be settled and finally to we get chance to live like any normal people..Until that....only this internet left for us...
Best regards!!!

Hi Ivconic,

Have a look here -> http://sg.royalmail.com/portal/rm/Pr...name=1&index=4
It is interesting that Royal Mail can send a letter from the UK to Serbia for as little as 48p (0.7 euro). A small populated PCB probably weighs less than 100g, which would cost £1.31 (less than 2 euros).
Does Serbia not have a similar postal service going the other way? Seems a bit crazy to me.

[Geo]

Hi Geo,
if you don't need notch build directly TGSL... you'll save work, noise, and consumption that way.

So you use rods ? For pre-search ?

I mean finding an "hot" zone... I know that some people find stuff that way... but I'm really skeptic about rods usefulness... I saw a number of people play with electronic or not... so far with no real success.

Maybe is my presence that make their rods don't work ?

Anyway... TGS (or TGSL) is good not only for pinpointing... they go deep and you can find stuff with these. Disc works really good and if you are lucky with components also erratic noise is not a problem.

Actually I found the real trick is setting a right GEB on it and require some experience... but after that all the rest is really easy and results are good.

Best regards,
Max

Hi Max.
I now learn to use robs. I have a friend who is expert at robs. One time he found a silver coin from 1.5.....2 km away, he was on a mountain. He can locate very easy small object within a area of 1x1 m or 1.5 x 1.5 m so we need a very light detector for exactly locate. He is working with robs for 25 years ago and he found a lot of coins from copper and silver but NEVER gold.
If you see him it is a Magic. You see the robs to go at one direction and you cant change it. Really if you see it you will believe. I am sceptic also but i can't give the answer......... only i see the results.
Maybe TGS to be ok for this. We have the XLT.... GTI2500...... 1270 ....... cl3 ....... ss60 and ......... and .... but i like to construct another detector (my hobby). Before 3 days i was to Athens so i found 2 metallic LM308 for TGS. Maybe next week to make it.
Regards

[Geo]

dear Geo

Can you give information about Anker How it is range?

Regards
Erol unall

Hi.Anker SS60 is a powerfull detector.It can detect a coin very easy at 50cm on the air, and it has a dual tone discrimination (very good). The problems are two..... 1. It has not ground balance (there is a trimer who do it but when you regulate it you change a little the disc).
2. When the ground is hard (with rocks) then you have some false signals fron the reflecting signal at the rocks(because the oscilator give big power). I have put a volt reg to the osc so i reg the oscilator outout.
It is not an easy project and you need a good 2 trace osciloscope to regulate it.
Regards

[Max]

Thanks to Qiaozi and to Max .
Maybe at next week to give it a try. I want to compare it with Anker SS60 and if the locate distance is near to SS60 then i will put it to a box (anker wants big battery so it is heavy) to have it for "pinpoint" when i find something with robs (do you hear it Max )
Regards

Hi Geo,
if you don't need notch build directly TGSL... you'll save work, noise, and consumption that way.

So you use rods ? For pre-search ?

I mean finding an "hot" zone... I know that some people find stuff that way... but I'm really skeptic about rods usefulness... I saw a number of people play with electronic or not... so far with no real success.

Maybe is my presence that make their rods don't work ?

Anyway... TGS (or TGSL) is good not only for pinpointing... they go deep and you can find stuff with these. Disc works really good and if you are lucky with components also erratic noise is not a problem.

Actually I found the real trick is setting a right GEB on it and require some experience... but after that all the rest is really easy and results are good.

Best regards,
Max

dear Geo

Can you give information about Anker How it is range?

Regards
Erol unall

[Geo]

Thanks to Qiaozi and to Max .
Maybe at next week to give it a try. I want to compare it with Anker SS60 and if the locate distance is near to SS60 then i will put it to a box (anker wants big battery so it is heavy) to have it for "pinpoint" when i find something with robs (do you hear it Max )
Regards

[ivconic]

Hi,
Ivconic well done!
You make me crazy!I still cant get my TGS working and you pick up 256 roman coins for 5-6 hours!!!NICE.
I dream to find ONE.

It is not about detector; it is about good location mostly.....and luck of course! At the end you must have good detector for sure! No tool no result!