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Dear CarlOriginally posted by Carl-NC View PostOK, I see. As long as the circuit isn't actually oscillating then it might work. All I can say is try it and see.
My PI ( based on polarity ) is working nice but i tested it for ferrous and non-ferrous metals.
Unfortunately, i have the same pitch for all metals, while your video is high/low pitch for different metals.
Do you have any suggestion for checking?
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I checked the "A" point on scope, no difference. All targets first increase.Originally posted by Carl-NC View PostIf you probe point "A" in your schematic, does it increase for one type of metal and decrease for the other?
My GB is working, but no disc on Audio.
My coil is mono, 500uH+680R.
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Your timing settings might be incorrect, or the connections to the CD4066 synchronous demodulator are likely wrong. At point A—with the GEB potentiometer set to a mid-range position—high-conductivity metals should produce a response opposite to that of low-conductivity metals. In my opinion, you should check point A first, just as Carl suggests, before looking for the problem in the audio circuit.
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Dear eduradoOriginally posted by eduardo1979 View PostYour timing settings might be incorrect, or the connections to the CD4066 synchronous demodulator are likely wrong. At point A—with the GEB potentiometer set to a mid-range position—high-conductivity metals should produce a response opposite to that of low-conductivity metals. In my opinion, you should check point A first, just as Carl suggests, before looking for the problem in the audio circuit.
TGT = 10us
GB=10us
EFE1=320
EFE2=340
All sample width is 20uS
I attached scope for GBdelay (9.5)
My testing targets are a foil and Iron hammer.
My coil size is 10cm, it is small for testing.
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Do you think it can be because of my damping resistor (680R)? Maybe the value is high.Originally posted by Carl-NC View PostIf you probe point "A" in your schematic, does it increase for one type of metal and decrease for the other?
Should I change the value of this resistor to 330 ohms and use a new inductance?
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What targets are you using? This method does not discriminate between ferrous & non-ferrous, but between low conductor and high conductor. Try a small piece of aluminum foil.Originally posted by h9361 View PostI checked the "A" point on scope, no difference. All targets first increase.
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I tested with :Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
What targets are you using? This method does not discriminate between ferrous & non-ferrous, but between low conductor and high conductor. Try a small piece of aluminum foil.
an Iron nail, Hammer and Pliers
1-euro coin, small and big foil, copper glass,
No difference in audio. GB is working nice, but disc audio is not work.
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Dear Carl,Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
What targets are you using? This method does not discriminate between ferrous & non-ferrous, but between low conductor and high conductor. Try a small piece of aluminum foil.
During capturing video for Bipolar, do you remember your coil inductance and damping resistor?
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If you are getting the same response for all conductivities, then GB is probably not working.Originally posted by h9361 View PostNo difference in audio. GB is working nice, but disc audio is not work.
300uH and ~470Ω. This is not your problem. All you need to do is make sure the preamp is no longer saturated when the first sample starts.Originally posted by h9361 View PostDuring capturing video for Bipolar, do you remember your coil inductance and damping resistor?
Look at TP5 and TP6. For any target they should have opposite polarities. For a small (25mm square) foil target TP5 should be stronger than TP6. For the hammer TP6 should be stronger than TP5.
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Thanks.Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
If you are getting the same response for all conductivities, then GB is probably not working.
300uH and ~470Ω. This is not your problem. All you need to do is make sure the preamp is no longer saturated when the first sample starts.
Look at TP5 and TP6. For any target they should have opposite polarities. For a small (25mm square) foil target TP5 should be stronger than TP6. For the hammer TP6 should be stronger than TP5.
I captured two videos from my scope.
Ch1 = TP5
Ch2 = TP6
Video 1 : target was a foil.
Video 2 : target was a iron hammer
Both target has the same action.
Please see my 5532 inputs,
my input signal is connected to pin3 (+), whereas Mr. eduardo1979 advice me to change it. It should be connected to (-).
Do you think this problem is because of it?
I read Ivconic's posts, he had my problem too (his post).Last edited by h9361; 10-12-2026, 07:14 PM.
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I checked my PCB more and more, the only difference was 4066 pins (3,4,10,11).Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
If you are getting the same response for all conductivities, then GB is probably not working.
300uH and ~470Ω. This is not your problem. All you need to do is make sure the preamp is no longer saturated when the first sample starts.
Look at TP5 and TP6. For any target they should have opposite polarities. For a small (25mm square) foil target TP5 should be stronger than TP6. For the hammer TP6 should be stronger than TP5.
I attached final schematic.
See following, it is U7: pin8 and pin7 output when Iron and foil are in front coil. Both target form is the same.
Ch1 : U7: pin 8
Ch2 : U7: pin 7
I tested my GB, it is working very nice.
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Your videos show that both sides are doing the exact same thing. One side should do this:
And the other side should do this:
My guess is that your demod timing isn't right. What are you using to test GB? Because those videos tell me that GB can't possibly be working.
And, no, whether the preamp is inverting or non-inverting won't make much difference.
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OK.Originally posted by Carl-NC View PostYour videos show that both sides are doing the exact same thing. One side should do this:
And the other side should do this:
My guess is that your demod timing isn't right. What are you using to test GB? Because those videos tell me that GB can't possibly be working.
And, no, whether the preamp is inverting or non-inverting won't make much difference.
Please tell me your suggestion for timing (TGT, GB, EFE1, EFE2) and i will test it.
Do you remember your timing for Bipolar?
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